Net curtain supports and double glazing

[snook]

Is it okay to screw in very small hooks (like cup hooks) into a double glazing unit in order to hang the net curtain rod on? I've been using ashesive-backed hooks and every now and again, on one particular window, one falls off and the weight of the curtain and the rod pulls the other one off. I'm getting a bit cheesed off fixing it back up.

I know there's no reason (well, I think there's no reason) why it should be wrong, but I can't kick the idea that it might mess with the glazing (which doesn't actually make sense - I'm talking about the frame, not the glazed unit).

Anyone used screw-in hooks and can assure me they're okay for the job?

Thanks.

[andy-hughes]

If you screw anything into the frames, you will invalidate any manufacturer's guarentee - usually at least ten years. We are having windows fitted at the moment, and the fitters advised that the window blinds cannot be re-attatched to the frames for that reason, but they will attatch them to the walls.

[NORMANTHEDOG]

i think your best bet is to fit a thin small strip of wood along the window and fit your hooks into that. andy hughes is right,anything screwwed or drilled into the frame will invalidate the warranty.

[Robinia]

If the guarantee bit doesn't apply & you decide to go ahead get someone (unless you can do it yourself!) with a really fine drill bit to carefully make a very tiny hole for the hook. You don't want to cause any cracks!

[qapmoc]

Having seen these systems assembled then I would say yes you can put hooks near the edges with no problems to the glazing, note that the PVC can be quite thin in places and the hooks might pull out later. but I would not do this just because it is a permanent thing which cannot be undone.

Why not take the self adhesive hooks, remove the original double sided sticky stuff and then fix them on with silicon adhesive/sealer. this should stick them on OK and can be removed in the future without damaging the surface. The only thing is it takes some time to ''set'' so you have to hold them in place with tape overnight.

[Consie]

If the window is a straight run (rather than a square or round bow) why not buy a curtain rod designed specifically for voile or net curtains - you can get expanding ones which require no fixings and the curtains hang really nicely from them.

[snook]

Thanks for your replies.

Andy, I'm not too bothered about the guarantee - the only time I contacted them (a window handle had stuck in place and couldn't be opened) they said the handles weren't covered by the guarantee, so obviously the 'small print' has them pretty well covered all round.

The strip of wood is a good idea, might be worth a try. That too would have to be stuck on, but double sided tape the whole length would make it pretty secure I reckon (and it's a bathroom window, so it's quite narrow).

Consie, I'm already using one of those rigid, extending curtain rods, but it still has to attach to something, somewhere.

I've tried attaching it with various stickers and glues, but I think I'll try your suggestion, qapmoc, and use silicon sealer. Don't know if it'll work but it's worth a shot. Come to think of it, I used it in the past to repair a fishtank, so it must be a very effective adhesive.

Any further ideas would still be welcome.

[shaneystar2]

I had this problem when we had new windows fitted last year.We have bay windows that bow if you know what I mean!
My niece works for Mostyns the curtain people and they sell strips of adhesive velcro,which she put along the window frame.She then sewed rufflette to all the nets so that they pleat up and hang nicely and stuck them to the velcro.Wonderful..all I do is pull them off wash them and stick them back up again.The velcro tape is easy to remove if you want to change your decor and you can get it at most Mostyns franchises.

[snook]

Thanks, shaneystar2! Love the adhesive Velcro idea! I've got some of that, so I might have a word with Mrs snook and leave the rufflette details to her (I'm not even sure what it is - heading tape perhaps?).

[shaneystar2]

Well the rufflette is what you normally sew on to the tops of curtains for hooks but you can get special rufflette for nets which is a sheer lighter type.Not so stiff and heavy as you would need for heavy curtains. This velcro stuff is fantastic and saves drilling holes and messing about with hooks and eyes and curtain rod.You can buy it by the yard .If you have a Mostyns near you they will no doubt be pleased to give you advice.But it's just a case of machine stitching the rufflette to the nets and pulling the cord through to get them pleated ,tie off the cord and stick them up.

[snook]

Sounds perfect, shaney! I've got the adhesive-backed Velcro already, plenty of it too, so I'll get some of the lighter Rufflette you mentioned and we should be all set.

Thanks for the very full explanation, much appreciated!

-- snook ;c)

[sense4all]

Had this problem too,went the silicone route as was advised that summer - winter shrinkage etc is just as likely to drive you round the twist - apparently. When you use tape to hold it ,use something strong like duct tape, and resist all temptation to rehang anything for twenty four hours (that was probably the hardest part , not having a plentiful supply of patience m'self.) I hate to state the obvious but just remind mrs snook to use the soft part of the velcro on the rufflette attatched to the net / lace curtain or you will will not be popular when a small tangled ball of fabric is removed from the machine

good luck, sense

[shaneystar2]

Hi again snook.Please see pics which will give you a better idea of what I mean.
http://tinypic.com/k2jxq8.jpg
http://tinypic.com/k2jyiu.jpg

[Consie]

Hi snook - I use a telescopic tension rod which just sits in the window reveal so I'm not sure what you mean about it having to attach somewhere. Still, sounds like the Velcro method might work for you.

[snook]

Consie, the curtain rods I'm talking about are telescopic, but they have a little hole in the plastic stopper at each end which fits over the small adhesive-backed hooks that come with them. They work fine on most windows but have to be refixed every now and again in the bathroom (moisture gets to them, I suppose, hadn't realised that til just now).

Thanks for the suggestion about the other type (I just took a look at one, using Google), but I'm going ahead with the Velcro idea (when mrs snook gets some of that Rufflette tape).

[ptt1234]

I use adhesive stick on - Dunelm do a set for pvcu windows i also remove backing and use superglue, the kit comes with end fittings that put the eye of the wire in under tension , hope this helps