Italy Next - Is The E U S S R Starting To Unravel?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/862249/catalonia-independence-italy-lombardy-venice-referendum

[ichkeria]

No.
They might actually have an increase in member states though :-)
This is all nonsense anyway.

[jim360]

Seems a little premature to sound the death knells for the EU. Or perhaps opportunistic reporting on behalf of the Express.

At this rate, how long until Germany, too, collapses and becomes the Holy Roman Empire all over again?

[Gromit]

What utter drivel. The fantasising of those wishing to see the end of the EU get more and more bizarre.

// And now Italy is facing similar chaos with two referendums set to be held on October 22, although in these instances the votes are state-approved and will not face violent opposition. //

Italy is not facing similar chaos. The comparison between Catalan and the autonomy votes in Italy are completely DIFFERENT and not at all similar. The vote is Italy is completely legal, has been set up by the Italian State Government, will not be disrupted by the Police.

Anyone seeing the vote in Italy as a sign of the immenent collapse of the EU is seriously deluded.

[jno]

didn't a North Italy party stand in general elections some years ago? They didn't do all that triumphantly, as I recall.

[ichkeria]

Sorry to witter or about one of my pet hates, but you will notice that this report is based on a link from RT, which is basically a non-stop anti-EU, anti-Europe propaganda machine. They must be wetting themselves at the Catalan situation :-)

[jno]

as are the non-stop anti-EU, anti-Europe propaganda machines right here, of course.

[ichkeria]

I couldn't possibly comment.
It is odd, though, that we are beset with lurid images of Europe being invaded by nasty Africans and Asians, while at the same time endless harangues about how big, bad and evil Europe is :-)

[Gromit]

Yes, the irony of the Daily Express presenting a 'Russia Today' report as truth of anything, amused me (rather than irritated me).
You can understand some wet, naive poster doing an RT link, but the Express, which is supposed to be a credible news source, resorting to it, is really revealing of what it thinks of its own readers.

[cassa333]

It depends on motivation really.

The EU is 'good' for letting so many people enter the EU.

But the motivation might not be.

So actually the two are not mutually exclusive.

What you you rather. Good things for the wrong reasons or bad things for good reasons. Either one can come back and bite you in the behind at any given moment.

The first obviously seems better but ultimately isn't always better in the long run.

[Old_Geezer]

If a part of a country that is in the EU secedes from the rest of the country then it is no longer a part of the member country and would need to seek membership (were they daft enough to want to) on their own merits. I don't believe that's a straightforward paperwork exercise, so the EU membership would likely fall.

One has no reason to think that the member country couldn't stay though.