Poverty And Loneliness Impact Millions At Christmas

[mikey4444]

Thought provoking link, from the Joseph Rowntree Foundation ::::::

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-berkshire-42354576/poverty-and-loneliness-impact-millions-at-christmas

[naomi24]

Zacs, your comprehension's failing again, but carry on if you like. Water off a duck's back to me.

[Zacs-Master]

Yet you can’t help but comment. Strangely revealing.

[Zacs-Master]

Anyway.....moving on (sort of)

What would be your definition of poverty, Naomi?

[mikey4444]

What a pity that this worry link from the JRF should have descended into such acrimony, so quickly.

[emmie]

it hasn't delved into acrimony, just a minor difference of opinion..

[naomi24]

Mikey, //What a pity that this worry link from the JRF should have descended into such acrimony, so quickly. //

Get off your sanctimonious high horse! I asked a question - a relevant one. Take a look at your responses to me.

Zacs, you let yourself down.

[Zacs-Master]

All I’ve asked is that you tell us what you define as poverty, Naomi. Could you? It would at least allow us to debate your position versus the ONS.

[naomi24]

Zacs, the ONS figure you provided differs enormously from that claimed by the foundation. My definition of poverty means suffering some considerable, ongoing hardship. The ONS say //being at risk of poverty does not necessarily imply a low standard of living//

Debate away ... or did you just want a row?

[Zacs-Master]

I think you need to define ‘some considerable’ and the length of ‘ongoing’ (a month, a year, ?) to enable us to understand and comment on your position.

I’m not sure why you mention a row. I’ve provided statistics, and asked you questions to engender debate which have been met, by you, with feeble insults. I think you need to take a long hard look at your own glass house before throwing stones around.

[naomi24]

Zacs, I'm not sure who the 'us' is you mention - but I'm not getting into your puerile nonsense. Make of it what you will.

[woofgang]

naomi Google is your friend https://www.jrf.org.uk/report/definition-poverty

[Zacs-Master]

The ‘us’ would be everyone involved in the thread. I’m not sure what’s purile about asking for facts and figures to back up a supposed statement. I take it you are unable to furnish ‘us’ with the definitions I requested.

[naomi24]

Zacs, I've furnished you with my definition. Go debate.

Woofgang, thank you.

[pastafreak]

It's such a shame that a topic relating to the hardships(relative I'm sure) experienced by the vulnerable in this country has to descend into nit-picking and petty and personal arguments.

[mikey4444]

Pasta...could agree more !

[Jackdaw33]

Well I shall be alone all over Xmas and very glad to be so. I cannot abide the enforced merriment and lip service paid to so-called traditions. The only company I need is a bottle of gin (actually a few bottles) and some packets of smokes, both of which I have in abundance. I hope that all those who visit family and friends have a really good time, but it's not for me.

[mikey4444]

Everyone to their own I guess Jack !

[hereIam]

mikey you bloody well started it at 8:59 !