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10ClarionSt | 19:12 Thu 04th Jan 2018 | ChatterBank
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Bearing in mind the TV programme that's on tonight, is there any interesting history in your house? My house is only 60 years old, but the first man who occupied it committed suicide when he found out his wife was having an affair. Before he died, he scrawled his initials on the inside of the garage wall in clear glue. It could only be seen from a certain angle, and had run down into spooky streaks! My kids still think the house is haunted by him, which is cobblers, of course. We were also the last occupants of 10 Clarion St. in Ancoats, and one of the previous occupants was a locally famous person called Rudi Mancini, who used to play the organ in Blackpool and had a "friend" called Neville. Has anyone ever heard of him? So, what's in your house history?
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good, wasn't it, Mamya. He seems to spend more time on the people than on the house, but they're interesting.
if you use this site

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#

you can use the slider to see what your house or street looked like in 1897.

Mine was in the middle of a duckpond. The ground's still damp.
well this is how Engels described - Portugal st and primrose st, blossom, naval and radium st

In the last-mentioned broad district included under the name Ancoats,
stand the largest mills of Manchester lining the canals, colossal six and
seven-storied buildings towering with their slender chimneys far above
the low cottages of the workers. The population of the district
consists, therefore, chiefly of mill hands, and in the worst streets, of
hand-weavers. The streets nearest the heart of the town are the oldest,
and consequently the worst; they are, however, paved, and supplied with
drains. Among them I include those nearest to and parallel with Oldham
Road and Great Ancoats Street. Farther to the north-east lie many newly-
built-up streets; here the cottages look neat and cleanly, doors and
windows are new and freshly painted, the rooms within newly whitewashed;
the streets themselves are better aired, the vacant building lots between
them larger and more numerous. But this can be said of a minority of the
houses only, while cellar dwellings are to be found under almost every
cottage; many streets are unpaved and without sewers; and, worse than
all, this neat appearance is all pretence, a pretence which vanishes
within the first ten years. For the construction of the cottages
individually is no less to be condemned than the plan of the streets. All
such cottages look neat and substantial at first; their massive brick
walls deceive the eye, and, on passing through a _newly-built_ working-
men's street, without remembering the back alleys and the construction of
the houses themselves, one is inclined to agree with the assertion of the
Liberal manufacturers that the working population is nowhere so well
housed as in England. But on closer examination, it becomes evident that
the walls of these cottages are as thin as it is possible to make them.
The outer walls, those of the cellar, which bear the weight of the ground
floor and roof, are one whole brick thick at most, the bricks lying with
their long sides touching; but I have seen many a cottage of the same
height, some in process of building, whose outer walls were but one-half
brick thick, the bricks lying not sidewise but lengthwise, their narrow
ends touching. The object of this is to spare material, but there is
also another reason for it; namely, the fact that the contractors never
own the land but lease it, according to the English custom, for twenty,
thirty, forty, fifty, or ninety-nine years, at the expiration of which
time it falls, with everything upon it, back into the possession of the
original holder, who pays nothing in return for improvements upon it. The
improvements are therefore so calculated by the lessee as to be worth as
little as possible at the expiration of the stipulated term. And as such
cottages are often built but twenty or thirty years before the expiration
of the term, it may easily be imagined that the contractors make no
unnecessary expenditures upon them. Moreover, these contractors, usually
carpenters and builders, or manufacturers, spend little or nothing in
repairs, partly to avoid diminishing their rent receipts, and partly in
view of the approaching surrender of the improvement to the landowner;
while in consequence of commercial crises and the loss of work that
follows them, whole streets often stand empty, the cottages falling
rapidly into ruin and uninhabitableness. It is calculated in general
that working-men's cottages last only forty years on the average. This
sounds strangely enough when one sees the beautiful, massive walls of
newly-built ones, which seem to give promise of lasting a couple of
centuries; but the fact remains that the niggardliness of the original
expenditure, the neglect of all repairs, the frequent periods of
emptiness, the constant change of inhabitants, and the destruction
carried on by the dwellers during the final ten years, usually Irish
families, who do not hesitate to use the wooden portions
engels working class in england in 1844

Altho I have looked on the map and Clarion St is really Irish Town,
and kinda bear but not at the notorious slum Angel Meadow

you will find a copy on Project Gutenberg

Mancini's were the Krays of manchester
altho I am sure not Rudi

Ah the Frock Coated Communists, nice mentions Peter.
I lived in a 300 year old cottage in Kineton. On the edge of the Battle of Edgehill.
The house used to be a long house and was later divided up into about 5 cottages.
Lots of the rooms had open stone walls.
In the lounge one of the walls had an ammonite measuring about two feet across half way up the wall.
It was a magnificent specimen. I wish I had taken a photo of it.
The house was haunted as I have spoken on here quite a few times.
I loved it there but my husband died there and the place was like the Forth bridge always needing work done. So I had to move to something I could cope with on my own.
I love old houses and the history they can share.

A house a great-aunt lived in, which was converted into flats could tell a story I'm sure
(was across the road from Clapham Common)
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&;ved=0ahUKEwillLL0vL_YAhXOZlAKHRQeCdUQFggtMAA&;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fpermalink.php%3Fid%3D1477167699182765%26story_fbid%3D1673512552881611&usg=AOvVaw3cUMenFJfIPKJkaK0WRnaG

This is your Mancini.

Our house goes back to 1850, it was the village post office until about 2003.
About a week after moving in we flew to the States on holiday, hadn't expected to ever sell the old house. We went into the Family History place in Salt Lake City, a kind of Genealogy Central. In a table there was a massive map book lying open and I was amazed to see it was open at our village, showing our road and the house, shown as a PO!
I'm only the second person to live in my house which isn't that old. The first was known as the last carter in Dundee (hauling jute with a horse and cart from the docks to the mills)
Do you ever see them maggie?
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The local village vicar lost his virginity at my Dad's house... in what used to be my old bedroom! It's a converted barn, so it was a barn in the day the vicar got frisky!! And safe to say, he wasn't a vicar at the time!
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As far as i know, my current home has no interesting history but, at former addressess, i have lived next door to 3 people who would go on to commit murder and in another i lived opposite someone who was the victim of a murder! That would probably not be unusual in certain parts of our big cities but in little old Burnley-By-The-Canal................................
That's an interesting site, jno. Have found my road but cannot find out what some of the symbols mean. Will return to it when more time.
Haha my Mum was training to be a priest at the time, so he and my Mum were close (not in that way!!). He would visit the house often and one occasion mentioned his lovely story!

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