Benefit Cheats

[redvanman]

Benefit Cheats on tv what is this country coming to when a illegal immigrant can use 17 different names to claim £2500 a week benefits this type of fraud as been going on for years my suggestion a long time a go finger prints as your signature and photo and scan them with every claim

[fiction-factory]

Yes, fingerprints would have stopped this. Signatures are now checked electronically each time but that doesn't help if he had 17 IDs. Did he claim to be a different illegal immigrant on each claim?

[Mamyalynne]

If he/she got away with it for many years they were either very clever or the proper checks weren't done, presume the are now caught?

[Old_Geezer]

There will always be Draconian suggestions to solve an issue that would just result in the entitled not applying because they can't stand official interference and their wanting to treat folk like they are an unvalued nuisance. Fingerprinting is for criminals not decent citizens. We all have an NI number, it should not be possible to claim multiple times or when unentitled. In fact the Sate ought to know when we are entitled and contact us.

[THECORBYLOON]

OG, the state would need to have daily access to your financial details to know if you were entitled to a means-tested benefit and I'm not sure that would be welcomed by many folk. The state would also need access to medical records to know if someone's incapacity may entitle them to a benefit Even if these were all feasible, how much money would it take to monitor and maintain security of all the additional information?

[sinderella]

Bring back signing on.
Well maybe not os they are too busy earning cash in hand to attend

[Mamyalynne]

If he/she is claiming 17 lots of benefits they won't need to work.

Lots do still sign on and have to attend regular interviews to continue their claim and of course many aren't claiming what they are entitled to.


Depends which benefits we are talking about really.

[ummmm]

Finger printing is not just for criminals. I use my finger print to get into my phone!

How can an illegal immigrant claim benefits anyway?

[Jackdaw33]

'How can an illegal immigrant claim benefits anyway?'

How indeed, you tell me.

[ummmm]

I don't know. I don't claim benefits.

[Jackdaw33]

'Me muslim. Me 'sylum seeker. You give me money'. At this point the tills open and spew forth their contents.

[ummmm]

I don't believe that asylum seekers are treated any different to the indigenous population. The same forms still need to be filled in.

If an immigrant managed to claim in 17 different names then I'm sure one of our own could do the same.

[fiction-factory]

>Me muslim. Me 'sylum seeker. You give me money'. At this point the tills open and spew forth their contents.
Not sure why you bothered to type that nonsense

[fiction-factory]

>Bring back signing on.
Well maybe not os they are too busy earning cash in hand to attend.

In my experience the signing on system is more onerous than it used to be. You do have to sign every week. Sometimes you have to attend a second time for a coaching session. Your signature is checked electronically. You have to complete a universal jobs match log online everyday and provide full details of all job searches/applications/interviews/next steps. I had to do that earlier this year- and that was just to get NI credits as i wasn't eligible for JSA/UC.
Of course there are some claimants who know their way round the system and may use the excuse of poor language skills, inability to read/write, illness, etc as reasons for not making much job seeking progress or missing appointments but the sanctions system is quite rigorous now.
I am not sure which categories don't have to sign on- I assume it is just some with serous disabilities- and I doubt they could get away with claiming under 17 different names.

It is worrying that someone can claim under 17 names if it's true. Were those IDs checked or were they fictitious or were they all otherwise untraceable illegals? Sounds like someone in authority has slipped up badly here or someone has found a major loophole

[Old_Geezer]

Doesn't the State already have this information ? The taxman seems to know what to demand and if not demands we tell them. The NHS is State run and could be coded to trigger a message if a benefit triggering ailment is suffered. If run by computers that are already dealing with the records the delta cost ought not be excessive.

[Old_Geezer]

I would deliberately not use fingerprints to get in anywhere, partly because they ARE for identifying criminals. Partly because if the data gets into criminal hands I can't change my fingerprints like I can a password.

[redvanman]

When is the government going to stop the emigrants from renting house to use to get all there benefits paid into the banks then move on and do the same again result in multiple frauds

[redvanman]

Simple to defraud how system with the false ID they use they are always one step ahead of how system