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Was Boris Johnson Right To Threaten Russia In Such A Way?
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"Quite JD. He had it coming the moment he was exchanged."
Actually not so: the unwritten rule is: after an exchange has taken place, you leave them be, and that goes for relatives too.
So if this is Putin and co it is a drastic departure from previous conventions. They've always bumped people off, but never have exchanged agents been targeted.
Actually not so: the unwritten rule is: after an exchange has taken place, you leave them be, and that goes for relatives too.
So if this is Putin and co it is a drastic departure from previous conventions. They've always bumped people off, but never have exchanged agents been targeted.
Lugavoy - Litvinenkio's killa said
//Actually not so: the unwritten rule is: after an exchange has taken place, you leave them be, //
but the guys who break the rules - say they keep to the rules. I mean they should all be on AB yarting away.....shouldnt they ?
like Putin " I never lie"....
erm excuse me that was someone on AB wasnt it ?
or this is absolutely true without a shread of evidence
another AB stalwart innit ?
I stilll think it is is sufenta - that was the sedative ( super super fentanyl ) that was used to end the Moscow Orchjestra siege
100 people resuced with 56 deaths or something
sufenta is super fentanyl and stops you breathing
and the Moscow KGB just piked them into ambulances and took them in respiratory arrest to hospital
adn when they arrived - - - - they were dead
( no bus and shoulda given narcan)
even on Tue - the police were saying - "no crime here miss" and so . . . .. they dont have to investigate anything. British Police are magnificent arent they ? Mme Litvinenka in the Times: "much better than last time - they took 20 days to tell me my husband was poisoned"
//Actually not so: the unwritten rule is: after an exchange has taken place, you leave them be, //
but the guys who break the rules - say they keep to the rules. I mean they should all be on AB yarting away.....shouldnt they ?
like Putin " I never lie"....
erm excuse me that was someone on AB wasnt it ?
or this is absolutely true without a shread of evidence
another AB stalwart innit ?
I stilll think it is is sufenta - that was the sedative ( super super fentanyl ) that was used to end the Moscow Orchjestra siege
100 people resuced with 56 deaths or something
sufenta is super fentanyl and stops you breathing
and the Moscow KGB just piked them into ambulances and took them in respiratory arrest to hospital
adn when they arrived - - - - they were dead
( no bus and shoulda given narcan)
even on Tue - the police were saying - "no crime here miss" and so . . . .. they dont have to investigate anything. British Police are magnificent arent they ? Mme Litvinenka in the Times: "much better than last time - they took 20 days to tell me my husband was poisoned"
damn - nerve gas is what done it
and not sufenta
damn - well it is lucky I didnt bet on it
considering that a policeman got ill first on the scene
they were very slow to realise that it was not self administered drugs
when he fell on the floor
did they just stand around and say -
"why he done dat den ?" or
" come on Geoff ( or Tom) stop pretending!"
even by Tue - they were saying that they didnt think there was anything to it.
and not sufenta
damn - well it is lucky I didnt bet on it
considering that a policeman got ill first on the scene
they were very slow to realise that it was not self administered drugs
when he fell on the floor
did they just stand around and say -
"why he done dat den ?" or
" come on Geoff ( or Tom) stop pretending!"
even by Tue - they were saying that they didnt think there was anything to it.
There's an old story, possibly apocryphal, of some local paper, the Cotswold Clarion or something, running an editorial beginning "This is not the first time we have had to warn the Tsar of Russia..."
Boris is in much the same position, I fear. Roosevelt suggested you need to talk softly but carry a big stick. Boris has to talk loudly because he has no big stick.
Boris is in much the same position, I fear. Roosevelt suggested you need to talk softly but carry a big stick. Boris has to talk loudly because he has no big stick.
It's a very good question aog: I suspect the answer is partly because that is the way "they" operate, and quite possibly actually drawing attention to it is part of the aim.
When Litvinenko was killed, it's thought they messed it up and that if the thing had been done properly he'd have died a lot more quickly, apparently of natural causes - perhaps with more than a hint of suspicion, but with no one able to prove anything. After all, even with the way it happened it took weeks to cotton on the actual method used. With this, it's very strange: unless Mr Skripal was up to something (which he may well have been) he would not have been the threat people like Litvinenko, Perepilichny, Berezovsky etc were to the Kremlin. His case was "closed" as it were. On the other hand, he was a very easy target for anyone wishing to make a brash statement.
It's also possible that like Litvinenko this was also bungled, although I'm not sure whether it is possible to attack someone with a nerve agent such that it looks like natural causes. It seems unlikely.
When Litvinenko was killed, it's thought they messed it up and that if the thing had been done properly he'd have died a lot more quickly, apparently of natural causes - perhaps with more than a hint of suspicion, but with no one able to prove anything. After all, even with the way it happened it took weeks to cotton on the actual method used. With this, it's very strange: unless Mr Skripal was up to something (which he may well have been) he would not have been the threat people like Litvinenko, Perepilichny, Berezovsky etc were to the Kremlin. His case was "closed" as it were. On the other hand, he was a very easy target for anyone wishing to make a brash statement.
It's also possible that like Litvinenko this was also bungled, although I'm not sure whether it is possible to attack someone with a nerve agent such that it looks like natural causes. It seems unlikely.
I am not sure if anyhone is telling the truth
There is an incident - and a policeman is affected and is in hospital and the police force involved says - we dont think there is a crime committed.
well what then
Altho Mme Litvinenka said they told her that her husband had been poisioned on day 20
in the event they knew he was glowing much earlier
( the random glow-meters in hospital labs started doinging. it became clear early on that the leak was not in the hospital but had been brought in. ) [ the glow meters are there to stop the expensive blood analysis machines becomiing contaminated.]
the policeman is badly affected and the doctor straightening out the patients airway isnt nor are the ambulance personnel.....
There is an incident - and a policeman is affected and is in hospital and the police force involved says - we dont think there is a crime committed.
well what then
Altho Mme Litvinenka said they told her that her husband had been poisioned on day 20
in the event they knew he was glowing much earlier
( the random glow-meters in hospital labs started doinging. it became clear early on that the leak was not in the hospital but had been brought in. ) [ the glow meters are there to stop the expensive blood analysis machines becomiing contaminated.]
the policeman is badly affected and the doctor straightening out the patients airway isnt nor are the ambulance personnel.....
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