Gawd Help Us, You Can't Even Call Someone By Their Correct Name And Title!

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43557516
So must we now know not only someones name but their preferred appellation?

[Togo]

//The incident arose because The Speaker decided that the Home Secretary's use of her name,//

You have it at last then! That is exactly how the "incident" arose. Burk cow took offence on someone else's behalf and Lady Muck was only too, happy to fill her well heeled boots. Meehh.

[Mamyalynne]

// Burk cow & Lady Muck//

Hardly surprising our MPs aren't courteous is it?

[andy-hughes]

Togo - // Burk cow took offence on someone else's behalf and Lady Muck was only too, happy to fill her well heeled boots. Meehh. //

It's not about 'taking offence', it's about Parliamentary procedure, and the ways in which Members are allowed - and indeed not allowed - to address each other.

The Speaker did not 'take offence' on behalf of the Right Honourable Lady, he did take issue with the deliberate flouting of Parliamentary procedure, and that's his job.

[Togo]

Haha perhaps Berrky can tag her as "vulnerable" from now on. You know, so that we all go aahh. We used to call it doolally not long ago mind, before we were exposed to the precious virus. Lady Muck suits her. She is not alone in that of course, but does so "neeeed" to be
he(a)rd.

[tamborine]

Tell ed - I've wanted tambo for years but no, no & no is all I get!

[andy-hughes]

Togo - // Haha perhaps Berrky can tag her as "vulnerable" from now on. You know, so that we all go aahh. We used to call it doolally not long ago mind, before we were exposed to the precious virus. Lady Muck suits her. She is not alone in that of course, but does so "neeeed" to be he(a)rd. //

If Ms. Thornberry had addressed the Home Secretary, and said "Boggis Jameson .... I can't actually remember his name ..." she would have been called out by the Speaker for precisely the same reason.

I'm unsure why you wish to fail to grasp what was going on that day, but I will reiterate -

It is nothing to do with Ms. Thornberry being 'vulnerable' or being 'Lady Muck' - it's to do with Parliamentary procedure, specifically, Members are not allowed to be disrespectful to each other, regardless of their gender.

Speaking of gender - had my scenario been enacted, in which case Mr Johnson would have been the defended party, would you be quite so keen to be as rude about him?

[New Judge]

"If Ms. Thornberry had addressed the Home Secretary, and said "Boggis Jameson .... I can't actually remember his name ..." she would have been called out by the Speaker for precisely the same reason."

Not quite the same, though, is it Andy.

Lady Nugee is a perfectly suitable - and some might argue more correct - alternative appellation for Ms Thornberry. Whereas "Boggis Jameson"....

[Mamyalynne]

At the risk of becoming repetitive, Mr Johnson knew precisely how to address her but searched the memories (comically, stop my sides are hurting) of those around him to make a childish point.

[Voltage]

and these people run the country

[andy-hughes]

New Judge - // "If Ms. Thornberry had addressed the Home Secretary, and said "Boggis Jameson .... I can't actually remember his name ..." she would have been called out by the Speaker for precisely the same reason."

Not quite the same, though, is it Andy.

Lady Nugee is a perfectly suitable - and some might argue more correct - alternative appellation for Ms Thornberry. Whereas "Boggis Jameson".... //

The point of the Home Secretary's pretend amnesia and 'comic' mis-pronunciation was designed to get a laugh from the Tory benches, and it backfired on him.

Using a name, even though correct in the letter, is not in the spirit of Parliamentary etiquette, and that is why the Home Secretary was pulled up for it.

Comedy - aside from the unintentional comedy he provides - is not the Home Secretary's strong suit.

I think you understand that as well as I do.

[Ellipsis]

It seems some have not read the full article referred to in the OP, in particular:

> Ms Thornberry has occasionally been teased about her formal title by Conservative critics and in February last year complained to Mr Bercow when Theresa May referred to her as Lady Nugee in the Commons.

So if Bercow continued to let it happen following that complaint, that would be an issue too ...