Back From Plymouth...

[10ClarionSt]

...but the M60 car park strikes again! A trouble free journey to Manchester, then the M60 nightmare! Just 10 miles from home, it took me another 45 mins from the Trafford Centre. Wonderful. Don't you just love Highways England? What have they got to do with it, you say? I dunno. Gotta blame someone. It's their motorway innit? I think a Nissan Micra had lost a wing mirror and was holding up two lanes. Or something else had happened.

[237SJ]

Try going 80 miles around the M25 (anti-clockwise) on a Friday afternoon

[bednobs]

i blame the bloody mancunians

[douglas9401]

Well I'm looking forward to a smooth and steady journey to Bromsgrove from the north when the smart motorway works are finished.

In 2022, according to the signs.

[Quoi]

how was plymouth - its my home town - you have been there more often than i have in the last 10 years.

[237SJ]

Plymouth is probably as grim as it has always been

[Quoi]

when did you last visit 237?
The last time I was there the town centre was looking a bit cleaner and a little less grey to me. There was some development going on with some fountain if recall..

[10ClarionSt]

Quoi, on this occasion I didn't go to the town centre as we had a memorial service in HMS Drake at St. Nicholas' Church. I always enjoy my visits to Plymouth. I believe 2020 will be very busy and swamped with Americans, as it's the 400th anniversary of the sailing of the Mayflower with the Pilgrim Fathers. There used to be a pedestrian subway under the road, leading to and from the Hoe, but that's been filled in now.

[10ClarionSt]

But otherwise it's ok, Spath? ;o) I believe the term used by the motoring organisations is called "Waving", where people travel too quickly, then have to brake to avoid a collision, which causes those behind to brake and eventually come to a stop.

237SJ - I'll give the M25 a miss. I've only ever driven on it once. It was a Saturday morning and fairly quiet so I didn't have any problems. But I hear too much bad news about the traffic on there. It's the same as all the roads in this country - they weren't built for motor vehicles, just horse and cart.

[murraymints]

M6/60 nightmare coming back from Chester..diverted from M6 because of a pile up, terrible lane hopping by HGV too...

[10ClarionSt]

That lane jumping doesn't get you anywhere. It's been studied by the motoring organisations and it was found that if you stayed in the same lane, as opposed to someone who is lane jumping, there was no gain in time or distance.

[murraymints]

scary being cut up at high speeds by full petrol tankers !

[10ClarionSt]

I reported one driver to his company a few weeks ago. Complete idiot he was, tailgating right up to my bumper at 50 mph. That is now an offence and could cost a driver their licence.

[murraymints]

my friend was driving, goodness only knows how we didn't collide I took the details and he was reported..no feed back yet..