Should He Come Wearing Sackcloth And Ashes?

[sandyRoe]

The Pope will visit Ireland today.

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[gness]

That's the one, Tony...thank you....

Move forward, Daisy? And sweep more under the carpet...do you know what it's like to tell someone you have been sexually abused...to not be believed and made feel as if you're the bad one? If this is true there will be a victim and I bloody well know how that victim feels!

He heads this church and if it's true and he did nothing then he is as guilty as the abuser and should go.

[naomi24]

sunny-dave. No one consulted you or asked your opinion but I have been attacked on this thread and like it or not I will defend myself. No shame here!

[anneasquith]

Have you replied to the question Dave?. 're the visit, he said what he has said before, nothing new. Maybe enough to placate some , I wonder all the children/adults in Ireland who were victims of abuse what their views are ? .

[gness]

Well there we have it...he has left Ireland after asking its people to forgive the abuses of power...sexual abuse, exploitation through manual work and for abuses perpetrated by men and women of the Church.....
Time after time he asked for forgiveness and each time people listening applauded......
Were those applauding his words victims....the children of victims.....women who suffered in the laundries ....mothers of babies stolen and given or sold to the rich or buried with no name in convent grounds? I very much doubt it.
I have been heartened by many of the changes that have taken place in Ireland my lifetime......and both saddened and angered by the response to this visit...
Will I live to see this church in Ireland in the gutter where it belongs? I don't think so.....but perhaps long enough to see it well on its way.....

Forgiveness? How very dare he.

[Zacs-Master]

Cheap lip service. I doubt if it’s made any devout catholics any less faithful.

[albaqwerty]

I heard on the news over the weekend that where the pope was due to give his speech (sorry, can't remember the name of the place) only 500,000 tickets were sold - whereas in 1979 when the then Pope visited, 1.5 million tickets.

(am not too sure if 'sold' is correct - sorry)

[gness]

I doubt this church would miss an opportunity to fill their coffers, Alba....but it has been a little heartening that the Vatican has had to fib about numbers attending masses and gatherings.....when it's down to none I'll applaud.....x