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Thanks Patsy. Sorry for the delay in replying. I was given the option of an operation which would have meant having it 9 months after the accident. I turned it down, bought the dartboard and went on the golf driving range whilst continuing with my physio. Having been given the chance to have an op, I turned it down because I was told the success rate was minimal for someone my age (that one again!) as it would be like stitching tissue paper. I believe the recovery time is 2 years without surgery. Progress will be slow, but I can assure you there will be progress. Having said that, I don't think my shoulder will ever be 100% but I would guess it is now about 95% and no trouble. It's just going to be patience and exercise, Patsy. I hope he's better soon.