Morals Again.

[Theland]

Before we carried away, could we establish the necessity, or otherwise, of Moral laws to help us exist peacefully with each other?

Fine if you agree. Fine if you don't.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//Well, there are morals. And there are laws. But there is nothing in legislatures which specifically defines one entwined with t’other//

Quite right. Neither is there anything in "legislatures" which entwines theft and gravity. "Law", like other words such as "apprehension" has more than a single meaning.

Thankfully we have dictionaries to help us out.

[Zacs-Master]

So back to my question then.....
What are moral laws?

[Zacs-Master]

By the way, the ‘apprehension’ thread didn’t get very far did it?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Moral "law" is the assertion that the revulsion most of us feel at the recent killing of the holocaust survivor is based on something other than a biologically or culturallyinmduced knee-jerk.

[Theland]

Instincts require no choices.
Morality does.
Choices.

[Zacs-Master]

But that’s not a ‘law’ is it. That’s just a ‘normal’ reaction to a terrible event for anyone who’s been brought up with any appreciation for, and consideration of, other human life. To call it a ‘law’ is misleading in the extreme and likely to make any debate tangential to what I think the OP actually meant.

[andres]

I always thought that the ten commandments helped to form our moral compass. From an early age most older people probably attended Sunday School. The commandments taught us right from wrong. They are not man made laws but a moral framework to life. Nowadays not as many children attend Sunday Schools and grow up without the slightest clue as to what morals are.

[Theland]

If morals are a choice, and I think they are, then wrong choices lead us to the mess we have in our society today.

[Theland]

Naomi - You ask why God did not create us as imperatively moral beings.
If He did, we would have no choice, and love requires a choice.
Anyway, as usual, you are true to form, and nit picking for the sake of ....... Nit picking!

[naomi24]

Theland, /Naomi - You ask why God did not create us as imperatively moral beings. //

No I didn't. You're dreaming.

[Theland]

Naomi - what you talking about?
A capacity for spitefulness?
Yes of course.
It's called free will. We make choices.

[naomi24]

You choose that?

[Theland]

You choose love or "spitefulness," a choice.

[Theland]

Your choices are becoming very apparent.

[beso]

Anyone who chooses the Bible as a moral compass is being seriously misguided.

[10ClarionSt]

It's just fine, thanks.

[Eleena]

I think we do either 'choose' to be moral or not.

[Zacs-Master]

Surely it’s a sliding scale and we choose our morals in accordance with the given situation?

[10ClarionSt]

Just get on with it.

[Eleena]

All I do know 'personally' .. is that I struggle in mind and body if I don't follow a moral path. We face a choice, there have been times I've slightly veered off that path, and it didn't feel good at all.