Momentum Stole The Labour Party. Who Is Stealing The Conservative Party?

[Gromit]

Before Corbyn was elected leader, there was a huge surge in new Labour members, who then promptly snubbed the MPs and elected the hard left candidate. And the result of that has been a terrible opposition who dither and have no clear message.

Meanwhile, Tory membership which was 80,000 in 2017 has doubled to 160,000 today, with 40,000 joining in the past week. Not bad for a party that hardly anyone voted for in the EU and local elections.

Of course the suspicion has to be that a ‘Blue Momentum’ is being played out to elect a far right candidate.

Anyone agree?

[dannyk13]

No

[ichkeria]

Are these newbies allowed to vote?
Yes I agree about a blue momentum.
More “purple” perhaps ;-)

[ToraToraTora]

not far right, a candidate who wants to implement the referendum result properly, not Brino, Brexit, with no deal if necessary.

[JF85]

Both parties have been caught out by the Brexit vote, which does not have a clear party split. Smaller parties are free to offer this stay / go clarity but, as is evident from the Brexit Party's lack of a manifesto, this does not translate to a mandate to run the country (however much of a mess the two main parties have made).

I doubt the surge in membership before a big vote represents more than one or two people turning up at constituency meetings often enough to change the direction of the party, but I do have a growing sensation of the late 1970s to early 1980s, with views being polarised. A small number on each extreme are playing games, reckless as to the damage they will inflict on the majority.

[cassa333]

Oh the ‘far right’ argument.

That doesn’t wash simply because the person (or group) you are referring to does not share your ideology.

Brexit is the default position because that is the mandate from the 2016 referendum. The polar opposite is remain. You cannot Say Brexit is far right when it is the default position!

It is remain on the left that are the extremists. And those advocating BRINO, or another referendum etc are on the way to far left.

[ichkeria]

There has been a lot of entryism by UKIP folk.
Many of the members in Beaconsfield who voted against Dominic Grieve were recent joinees.
As for Farage and his Brexit Party, his actual aim is not power, but to spook the Tories into copying him. He pulled that trick off before and he’s doing it again.

[ToraToraTora]

ich, not "copying", fearing the effect on the Tory core vote. That's why Dave conceded the referendum in the first place, Farage forced it, that was the bauble with which he bought the 2015 election.

[ichkeria]

Er that is my point

[ToraToraTora]

you said "copying", Dave never copied, he conceded a referendum to stem the flow to UKIP.

[ichkeria]

Well yes ok not “copying” but definitely “spooked”
We now know in any case that Cameron didn’t think he’d have to do actually it.

[ToraToraTora]

yes spooked, yes he thought remain would win.

[youngmafbog]

Who has stolen the Conservative Party you mean?

And the answer is the Metropolitan liberal elite. These self serving arrogant career politicians no longer represent the grass roots nor the potential voter, just as labour have done.

What a mess.