As I Have Been Saying All Along.....

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48487973
Bang on Mr President.

[jim360]

Actually President Trump is a fool for not agreeing with what I've been saying.

[jno]

Trump is president of the USA. Nothing hed like more for trade purposes than to pick countries off one at a time - it makes negotiating so much easier when you're dealing with one country rather than 27.

I'm not sure why you'd want to make life for America easier, but perhaps you're a VBQ.

[ToraToraTora]

he's offered a no tariff deal jno, that's better than WTO isn't it? VBQ? mate you are in the camp that want our country run by unelected corrupt foreigners, I'd look a bit closer to home if I was you me old china.

[jim360]

First, stop using VBQ all the time.

Second, the fact is that it is in the USA's interests (at least as Trump sees it) for the UK to leave the EU. But since his definition of a good trade deal is one that disproportionately favours his country, exactly why should we be so keen for that kind of trade deal to exist? As part of the EU, on the other hand, the US wouldn't be able to force such unbalanced trade terms on us so easily.

[Ken4155]

Trump is known for changing his mind more times than the wind changes direction. What's not to stop him reneging on the no tariff deal once we leave the EU. Especially if we don't get the Prime Minister HE wants. Beware of strangers bearing gifts. Well he is a tad strange :-/

[bhg481]

Anyone who believes a word that Trump says is a fool. When he says he'll give us a good deal her means a good deal for the USA. When he says Farage and Johnson are great he means great for the USA.

[ToraToraTora]

jim, first I'll use the terminology that is accurate for my needs, when I want to. In any case your compatriot jno used it first here.
second, what part of "no tariff" are you struggling with? It's good for both sides, surely.

[jim360]

It's pretty abusive, so all I can say is that you bear that in mind, especially with reference to the Site Rules, in future.

As to the deal Trump's offering, there are squillions of tiny details to sort out. What do we do about competing standards for food products (the whole chlorinated chicken, hormone growth-enhanced beef and pork, etc)? Zero tariffs there would at the very least destroy the food standards in this country, and would for that matter almost certainly undermine and wreck our own farming industry. More than that, a deal with the US is likely to be at the expense of, rather than as well as, any equivalent deals with the EU. It will certainly have an effect on what deals we can make with our nearest and most significant markets.

And it still fails to address the key issue, which is that Trump's interest is what is good for the US -- and in his mind, that is not actually the same as what is good for any other country. Least of all us. Sure he'll pretend otherwise. But it's still a pretence.

[Spicerack]

Tell jno.

[dannyk13]

Jim, are you able to read minds now?

[Peter Pedant]

// Bang on Mr President.//
and he will, hur hur hur
three wives and isnt there that woman he paid to p.....

[Zacs-Master]

Two eejits agreeing doesn’t make it any more sensible

[Peter Pedant]

// And it still fails to address the key issue, which is that Trump's interest is what is good for the US //

doesnt stand the usual maff black box test - see what comes out

his cabinet is now twice as rich as they were ( horray !)
but the average worker isnt
who swallows the snake oil - that they could be as rich as Trump if they... ( voted for him again)

May tries it and - - - loses her job

[ToraToraTora]

well jim I have several times asked for a other terms for those that want to collaborate with a foreign power against their own nation. I'm still open to suggestions. In the mean time can the truth be "abusive"? Uncomfortable perhaps.

Sure any deal needs thorough scrutiny all I'm saying is that we can at least start the process at face value. If the US deal is not good for us we won't take it, surely.

[Zacs-Master]

We might not have a lot of choice.

[Peter Pedant]

// jim, first I'll use the terminology that is accurate for my needs, when I want to.//

how true how true
and not today - nor yesterday , nor any day since New Year

Go! free-T and make sense for once !

[ToraToraTora]

make sense twopee? That's rich coming from you! PMSL!

[Old_Geezer]

Difficult to argue with Trump on those points. It's what the smart folk have been saying all along. Still, difficult to be wrong every time I guess. Or maybe it's all fake news and alternative facts.