When Did It Changed?

Jordyboy9 | 11:50 Thu 25th Jul 2019 | Sport

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There was a time when you had to be English born of English parents to represent England,
The same with Scotland and Wales,Scottish born of Scottish born parents to represent your country at any level,
So when did it all changed?
We have New Zealand born cricketers playing against their mother country
Now there is talk of anyone being a resident for 5 years is eligible to represent the country he has stayed in.

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ummmm

For as long as I can remember you had to have a grandparent/s born in the country you play for.

Cloverjo

And you had to be born in Yorkshire to play cricket for Yorkshire. Those were the days ;)

douglas9401

'appen.

fiction-factory

>We have New Zealand born cricketers playing against their mother country...

>When Did It Changed?

Well we had South African born crickets playing for England over 30 years ago (eg Lamb and Hick). Jason Gallian was Australian born and played for England around 25 years ago. Colin Cowdrey was born in India but played for England in the 1960s.

Mamyalynne

ECB announced the new rules in November 2018 - came into force January 2019.

https://www.ecb.co.uk/news/924224/ecb-announce-updated-regulations-for-england-availability

fiction-factory

Thanks Mamyalynne. It doesn't seem a major rule change to me. Certainly the New Zealand born (Ben Stokes) example that Jordy uses is an example of someone who would have been eligible to play for England under the old rules, and probably a generation or two ago too.

Mamyalynne

I can only think the latest update is the one Jordy is referring to. I don't follow cricket, so fans may know better.

Buenchico

As Mamyalynne's link shows, the rules have been changed but possibly not by quite as much as you seem to think, JB9.

For example, Basil D'Oliviera, Tony Greig, Allan Lamb, Andrew Strauss, Matt Prior, Jonathan Trott, Craig Kieswetter and Kevin Pietersen were all born in South Africa and played for England well before the current rules came into effect. (Of the current crop, Jason Roy, Keaton Jennings and Tom Curran were born in South Africa too).

Colin Cowdrey, Bob Woolmer, Robin Jackman and Nasser Hussain were born in India.

Devon Malcolm was born in Jamaica.

Andy Caddick was born in New Zealand (as Ben Stokes was).

Phillip DeFreitas was born in Dominica.

Phil Edmonds was born in Zambia.

Graeme Hick was born in Zimbabwe.

Mike Denness was a Scot, who played for both Scotland and England.

Roland Butcher was born in Barbados (as Jofra Archer was too).

Derek Pringle was born in Kenya.

Since the 'England' team actually represents the England and Wales Cricket Board, it should be no surprise that there have been Welshmen (such as Pat Pocock and Simon Jones) playing for England in the past.

Jordyboy9

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Thanks Mamy,and I hope I didn’t upset Baldric to much as he didn’t seem to think much of my post,but there again he never does,after all he does start some scintillating posts,not

Old_Geezer

You just have to identify with the nation of your choice; don't you ?

Jordyboy9

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And you had to be born in Yorkshire to play cricket for Yorkshire. Those were the days ;)in my unbiased opinion this is what it should be,
the way things are going you could field a team of say pakistani born players playing against their own country,maybe it would be good for scotland,11 brazilians representing scotand at football.