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^ yes, best policy would be to lilo? ;-)
22:34 Tue 13th Aug 2019
Always, always, there are at least two sides to anything reported. I always read to the end of a link, if I read it, as often by the end, it is either contradicting itself... or at least admitting "alleged". "A source said..." etc. Although, honestly, I wondered what the other side would be, but saw nothing in the link to deny it either.
Sorry but someone has not done their research and checked facts.
This was a helicopter only Royal Navy Air Sqdn 771. It ran SAR helicopters so the Cast Guard would rightly say they had no knowle
Helicopter-only squadron[edit]
771 NAS reformed in 1961 and assumed the helicopter trials and training roles from 700 NAS with the Westland Whirlwind, Westland Dragonfly, and the Westland Wasp prototype at RNAS Portland. During this time 771 was able to pioneer and develop many Search And Rescue techniques; including helicopter in-flight refueling (HIFR), hi-line transfer, free diver drop and cliff winching techniques. Soon after standing up again, the Squadron gained two Westland Whirlwind HAR.3s and assumed the RNAS Portland SAR commitment. The Squadron was disbanded on 1 December 1964, on being absorbed into 829 Naval Air Squadron.
771 Squadron Westland Whirlwind HAS.7 SAR rescue helicopter at Portland in 1967.
On 23 June 1967, the squadron reformed with the new primary task of anti-submarine warfare (ASW) Fleet Requirements Unit, in addition to the Portland SAR duty. Nine Whirlwind HAS.7 were used by the Squadron at this time. The Westland Wessex was introduced in 1969 with the Mk 1. This marked the beginning of a long association of the aircraft with the squadron. By 1970, the ASW role had been passed on to 737 Naval Air Squadron, making SAR 771's primary role, a role that has remained to the present day.
The Squadron moved to RNAS Culdrose in September 1974. Six of its Wessex aircraft were left at RNAS Portland, to form the basis of 772 Naval Air Squadron. The Wessex HAS.1 was replaced by the twin turbine-powered Wessex HU.5 in 1979, when it was involved with the 1979 Fastnet race rescues. During the Falklands Conflict all of 771 aircraft were taken for troop transport roles, some went to 722 Naval Air Squadron, but the majority reformed 847 Naval Air Squadron and 848 Naval Air Squadron along with some of 771 NASs aircrew. The remaining crew went either to their old aircraft type, or to new roles in the Lynx or Wasp fleets. Two Wessex Mk.5 from Wroughton were used in August 1982 to form the backbone of 771 NAS as it took the SAR commitment back from the RAF. In January 1983 the Squadron once again operated mixed fleets of rotary and fixed wing aircraft as it absorbed the Station Flight, taking ownership of two Chipmunks and 2 Sea Devons. It operated these until the end of 1989 when the Sea Devon was withdrawn from service. In 1985 the Squadron absorbed 707 Naval Air Squadron's Wessex helicopters when 771 NAS took over Commando Helicopter Training. The Wessex were replaced by Westland Sea King HAS.5s, converted to HAR.5s, in October 1987 as the Squadron assumed a long range, day/night and all weather SAR capability. In July 2001, 771 Squadron assumed the responsibility for Advanced and Operational Flying Training for anti-submarine warfare (ASW) pilots and Observers, as well as the residual Sea King HAS.5 & HAS.6 Pilot Conversion and Refresher Courses.
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In its final years the Squadron operated the Sea King HAR.5 in the grey and red colours, with nine permanently stationed at RNAS Culdrose. 771's sister unit, Gannet Flight operates 3 HAR.5s performing a similar role from HMS Gannet on Prestwick Airport. 771's primary role was one of military Search and Rescue, with secondary roles in civilian Search and Rescue, Pilot and Observer refresher training, utility and liaison and ab-initio Pilot Conversion and operational training. To perform these roles, one of the helicopters was on 15 minutes notice to fly during the day, and 45 minutes during the night, with a duty crew on call for 24 hours. This duty was maintained for 365 days of the year, with a second standby aircraft ready to assist should the emergency have demanded it.
It stopped rescue duties on 1 January 2016 and was decommissioned on 22 March 2016. The squadron was responsible for saving over 15,000 lives on more than 9,000 missions
This was a helicopter only Royal Navy Air Sqdn 771. It ran SAR helicopters so the Cast Guard would rightly say they had no knowle
Helicopter-only squadron[edit]
771 NAS reformed in 1961 and assumed the helicopter trials and training roles from 700 NAS with the Westland Whirlwind, Westland Dragonfly, and the Westland Wasp prototype at RNAS Portland. During this time 771 was able to pioneer and develop many Search And Rescue techniques; including helicopter in-flight refueling (HIFR), hi-line transfer, free diver drop and cliff winching techniques. Soon after standing up again, the Squadron gained two Westland Whirlwind HAR.3s and assumed the RNAS Portland SAR commitment. The Squadron was disbanded on 1 December 1964, on being absorbed into 829 Naval Air Squadron.
771 Squadron Westland Whirlwind HAS.7 SAR rescue helicopter at Portland in 1967.
On 23 June 1967, the squadron reformed with the new primary task of anti-submarine warfare (ASW) Fleet Requirements Unit, in addition to the Portland SAR duty. Nine Whirlwind HAS.7 were used by the Squadron at this time. The Westland Wessex was introduced in 1969 with the Mk 1. This marked the beginning of a long association of the aircraft with the squadron. By 1970, the ASW role had been passed on to 737 Naval Air Squadron, making SAR 771's primary role, a role that has remained to the present day.
The Squadron moved to RNAS Culdrose in September 1974. Six of its Wessex aircraft were left at RNAS Portland, to form the basis of 772 Naval Air Squadron. The Wessex HAS.1 was replaced by the twin turbine-powered Wessex HU.5 in 1979, when it was involved with the 1979 Fastnet race rescues. During the Falklands Conflict all of 771 aircraft were taken for troop transport roles, some went to 722 Naval Air Squadron, but the majority reformed 847 Naval Air Squadron and 848 Naval Air Squadron along with some of 771 NASs aircrew. The remaining crew went either to their old aircraft type, or to new roles in the Lynx or Wasp fleets. Two Wessex Mk.5 from Wroughton were used in August 1982 to form the backbone of 771 NAS as it took the SAR commitment back from the RAF. In January 1983 the Squadron once again operated mixed fleets of rotary and fixed wing aircraft as it absorbed the Station Flight, taking ownership of two Chipmunks and 2 Sea Devons. It operated these until the end of 1989 when the Sea Devon was withdrawn from service. In 1985 the Squadron absorbed 707 Naval Air Squadron's Wessex helicopters when 771 NAS took over Commando Helicopter Training. The Wessex were replaced by Westland Sea King HAS.5s, converted to HAR.5s, in October 1987 as the Squadron assumed a long range, day/night and all weather SAR capability. In July 2001, 771 Squadron assumed the responsibility for Advanced and Operational Flying Training for anti-submarine warfare (ASW) pilots and Observers, as well as the residual Sea King HAS.5 & HAS.6 Pilot Conversion and Refresher Courses.
050625-Kiel-x80-600.jpg
In its final years the Squadron operated the Sea King HAR.5 in the grey and red colours, with nine permanently stationed at RNAS Culdrose. 771's sister unit, Gannet Flight operates 3 HAR.5s performing a similar role from HMS Gannet on Prestwick Airport. 771's primary role was one of military Search and Rescue, with secondary roles in civilian Search and Rescue, Pilot and Observer refresher training, utility and liaison and ab-initio Pilot Conversion and operational training. To perform these roles, one of the helicopters was on 15 minutes notice to fly during the day, and 45 minutes during the night, with a duty crew on call for 24 hours. This duty was maintained for 365 days of the year, with a second standby aircraft ready to assist should the emergency have demanded it.
It stopped rescue duties on 1 January 2016 and was decommissioned on 22 March 2016. The squadron was responsible for saving over 15,000 lives on more than 9,000 missions
The inaccurate Kent News link was reporting on an incident that occurred in Cornwall. Sqdn 771 would of operated in the S.W. Devon and Cornwall sector out of RNAS Culdrose.
Any SAR rescues on the Kent Coast would of operated out of RAF Manston. The Helicpter 771 does not exist as a coastguard SAR chopper as stated but 771 sqdn does exist. More misinformation as usual.
Any SAR rescues on the Kent Coast would of operated out of RAF Manston. The Helicpter 771 does not exist as a coastguard SAR chopper as stated but 771 sqdn does exist. More misinformation as usual.
Retrocop:
A bit of googling suggsts that the RNLI guy who spoke to the press was actually referring to an historic event to illustrate the dangers of using inflatables in the sea. There's nothing about the rescue on the Facebook pages of the Porthleven Coastguard Team (which records all call-outs) during the past few years, so it's quite possible that the rescue referred to was carried out in 2015 or earlier, when 771 Sqdn could have been involved in it.
Indeed, I seem to remember reports of the parents seeking recompense for the loss of the inflatable appearing in the national press several years ago.
A bit of googling suggsts that the RNLI guy who spoke to the press was actually referring to an historic event to illustrate the dangers of using inflatables in the sea. There's nothing about the rescue on the Facebook pages of the Porthleven Coastguard Team (which records all call-outs) during the past few years, so it's quite possible that the rescue referred to was carried out in 2015 or earlier, when 771 Sqdn could have been involved in it.
Indeed, I seem to remember reports of the parents seeking recompense for the loss of the inflatable appearing in the national press several years ago.
Quite right Chris. I accept it is not recent news but correct in it's content except that which appears to be reported in Mamyalynnes link from some Kent rag.
I would of thought that any coastguard officer with half a brain would realise ,when asked,that the number 771 would relate to a Royal Navy Air Station squadron that operated SAR helicopters.The link is ridiculous as the incident occurred in the S.W. in the Culdrose operational sector and not Kent which is where the rag reported it with misinformation.
I would of thought that any coastguard officer with half a brain would realise ,when asked,that the number 771 would relate to a Royal Navy Air Station squadron that operated SAR helicopters.The link is ridiculous as the incident occurred in the S.W. in the Culdrose operational sector and not Kent which is where the rag reported it with misinformation.
Mamyalynne:
Apologies for not checking your link.
Retrocop:
There was a period when 22 Sqn (B Flight), operating out of Watisham, could have been involved in Kent rescue. (Wattisham is just up the road from me and the local press reported call-outs to rescues across a massive area. A Flight, based in Chivenor, and C Flight, based on Anglesey covered much of the rest of the UK).
Apologies for not checking your link.
Retrocop:
There was a period when 22 Sqn (B Flight), operating out of Watisham, could have been involved in Kent rescue. (Wattisham is just up the road from me and the local press reported call-outs to rescues across a massive area. A Flight, based in Chivenor, and C Flight, based on Anglesey covered much of the rest of the UK).
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