Does Anyone Know.........

[10ClarionSt]

.....how to find out who owns undeveloped land which is described as
"unnamed land and garage site to the rear of No's 13 to 25 (street name)"? Would the Land Registry have the information? Any help from you knowledgeable types would be much appreciated! Thanks.

[Mamyalynne]

General advice here.

https://hmlandregistry.blog.gov.uk/2018/02/05/search-owner-unregistered-land/

[10ClarionSt]

Thanks mama but when I go to search, it's asking for a street name and postcode. I can't do that. I'm not after details of a house. I want to know who owns some unoccupied land. I'll have to keep looking.

[Mamyalynne]

Good luck, I know it isn't easy - we acquired some land next to out business premises years ago but it was a long drawn out process.

[TonyV]

your local council or Land Registry will be able to send you a plan of the land and who which parcel of land is registered to each property.

[Buenchico]

Mamya's link assumes that the land hasn't been registered but it might have been.

Try searching from here:
https://eservices.landregistry.gov.uk/eservices/FindAProperty/view/QuickEnquiryInit.do
Start by clicking on 'Map Enquiry'
Then enter the name of the street and the town before clicking 'Search'. (You can leave the other fields blank).
Then follow the instructions to move around the map, looking for the land that you're interested.
When you've found it, zoom into it and then turn 'Find Properties' on.
If the land is registered you should then be able to download a copy of the title deed for £3. (There's a registration process to go through but it's very straightforward).
That search facility works for all registered land, irrespective of whether or not there are any houses (or other buildings) on it.

[TonyV]

10 Clarion St surely you know the house addresses and numbers of the properties that are at front of land you are enquiring about?

[10ClarionSt]

Of course Tony, but the results just come up for those properties. I need information about the land BEHIND them, as described in my OP. I'm going round in circles on the Land Registry website. I'll try Chris's. Thanks.

[TonyV]

OK Clarion if you get plans from Land Registry, it will show the borders of each property.

[AuntPollyGrey]

Ask at your local council. If there have been garages put on it there should be evidence of either Planning permission at some time or the person who has paid the rates.
Its worth asking residents of the adjacent houses if they know who the land belongs to. If the owner has died with no beneficiaries then the land will have become crown property and there could be a record of it. Of all these , I think local knowledge is the quickest and easiest way to find out the history of the land.

[10ClarionSt]

Thanks guys. I think I'm getting somewhere now. Might all be to no avail. We'll see.

[TonyV]

OK Clarion sorry I misread your original inquiry. Do both properties backing onto land have boundary fences? What is the land adjacent to at back onto, a lane, right of way(will be shown on Land Registry plans) What does the land back onto.

[10ClarionSt]

The land backs on to a conservation area, which holds a Grade 1 listed building. It has garages on that have been there for quite some time, at least 40 years. Someone has applied to demolish the garages and build a dormer bungalow. It would be raised above the conservation area and overlook the Grade 1 building. To me, it's inconceivable that anyone would want to build a home in such a precarious position. But I'm assuming that full surveys have been carried out as plans have been submitted but not yet published. A dispute may arise about ownership of the land, which is why I was trying to see what it says on the LR website.

[TonyV]

Well Clarion if sum one has admitted plans for building consent they must own the land IMO

[10ClarionSt]

That's my view as well, Tony, but one or two others think different, for some reason. They must know something I don't!

[TonyV]

Again Clarion local building control and planning department will make final decision, but should ask neighbours of adjacent land if they have any objections.

[TonyV]

Clarion only time will tell I guess. My neighbours and I have a planning issue ongoing with a change of use for an old industrial building into a Yoga studio. I don't have any problems with anybody starting a business, but what will happen with parking is our problem. Our street and houses where built before everyone was a 2 or 3 car house, our house still has turning space in garden, now shared for stage coaches and horses.

[jackthehat]

The Planning Application ought to be acompanied by a completed Certificate B (or C.....or D) if the Applicant is *not* the sole owner of the land on which the development is to take place. This will give the name(s) and address(es) of the people who *do* own the land, to be legal. There are exceptions to this, but it is a good place to start.

Have a look at the on-line Planning Application.

[cassa333]

If it abuts a conservation area and is raised above that then there could be problems with objections and such like.

[10ClarionSt]

Thanks folks. Really helpful comments there.