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//Mrs Ellman, who is Jewish, has been a party member for 55 years but said she "can no longer advocate voting Labour when it risks Corbyn becoming PM".//
//Mrs Ellman, who has been an MP since 1997, said anti-Semitism had become "mainstream" in Labour under Mr Corbyn's leadership.
"I believe that Jeremy Corbyn is not fit to serve as our prime minister," she said. // - who needs opposition when the party is self destructing? Can Labour ever reverse the path of extremism they have taken?
//Mrs Ellman, who is Jewish, has been a party member for 55 years but said she "can no longer advocate voting Labour when it risks Corbyn becoming PM".//
//Mrs Ellman, who has been an MP since 1997, said anti-Semitism had become "mainstream" in Labour under Mr Corbyn's leadership.
"I believe that Jeremy Corbyn is not fit to serve as our prime minister," she said. // - who needs opposition when the party is self destructing? Can Labour ever reverse the path of extremism they have taken?
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// his complete clulessness in dealing with the accusations is what makes him unfit to lead anything //
Agreed, but he is having to deal with the complexity that I mentioned. Ie, there is genuine anti-Semitism, mixed up with perceived anti-Semitism (ie people who genuinely think criticism of Israel is the same thing), mixed up with people inside the party using it to deliberately cause trouble, mixed up with hostile elements that are nothing to do with the party - the media and political opponents claiming to see it everywhere.
All I'm saying is it wouldn't be straightforward, even if he wasn't clueless - which indeed he is.
Agreed, but he is having to deal with the complexity that I mentioned. Ie, there is genuine anti-Semitism, mixed up with perceived anti-Semitism (ie people who genuinely think criticism of Israel is the same thing), mixed up with people inside the party using it to deliberately cause trouble, mixed up with hostile elements that are nothing to do with the party - the media and political opponents claiming to see it everywhere.
All I'm saying is it wouldn't be straightforward, even if he wasn't clueless - which indeed he is.
Jim, We have a Muslim Chancellor who’s previously held other prominent positions – not someone a ‘party’ embracing Islamophobia would countenance - so yes, it is debateable.
Back to the Labour Party. As has been said, its members appear incapable of distinguishing between anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.
Back to the Labour Party. As has been said, its members appear incapable of distinguishing between anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.
The impression I get is that a number of longstanding and experienced MPs have decided that it's not worth criticising Corbyn due to the vitriol they get, threats of deselection, etc. They refuse to be in the shadow Cabinet and concentrate on being constituency MPs. This has led to a weaker opposition.
I know it's complex, ludwig, but Corbyn doesn't even seem to have detected that there's a problem let alone done anything about it. All he seems to do is say "Of course I'm not anti-Semitic!" Blair would have nipped these accusations in the bud years ago, which is why he was prime minister three times and Corbyn won't be at all.
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