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It's Our Nhs
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Over the years, I have put thousands of pounds into the People's NHS like most of the people in this country. We own it.
Boris has no right to give this away to his rich cronies. But he will if he's returned to power, robbing the poor to fund the rich, the hard-wired Tory Policy.
Boris has no right to give this away to his rich cronies. But he will if he's returned to power, robbing the poor to fund the rich, the hard-wired Tory Policy.
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According to this the cost of paracetamol for 8 tablets is £1.28
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This is the closest to the figure in RR's leaflet I can find is from last year when they were banning certain readily available meds from being prescribed.
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I agree it likely includes many costs other than that of the tablet.
I had them prescribed for a while but cancelled them off my regular list a good while ago and pick up as and when I am shopping.
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I agree it likely includes many costs other than that of the tablet.
I had them prescribed for a while but cancelled them off my regular list a good while ago and pick up as and when I am shopping.
sorry wrong link.Don't know how that happened
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I recall as a first time Mum and young and naive taking my little on to the Dr with an itchy rash,having looked her over he scribbled something sown and pointed at the chemist's shop.
I came away with two large bottles of calamine lotion and three large rolls of cotton wool.
Even though I knew very little back then I was astonished.
I came away with two large bottles of calamine lotion and three large rolls of cotton wool.
Even though I knew very little back then I was astonished.
About 40 years ago there was a tablet with great efficacy called Lo-Bak. Excellent medication for back pain. My mother took it and gave me some of hers when I was literally laid low.
Later I asked my GP for it as my back problem had reoccurred. The Pain management clinic had given me a epidural in the day case clinic which didn’t work.
My doctor had to give me 4 different medications to do the job of one Lo-Bak as it was now discontinued. One was Paracetamol which the pharmacist advised me to buy seperately as it was cheaper than the prescription charge. That’s where a lot of money is wated in our NHS. Pharmecuticals!
Later I asked my GP for it as my back problem had reoccurred. The Pain management clinic had given me a epidural in the day case clinic which didn’t work.
My doctor had to give me 4 different medications to do the job of one Lo-Bak as it was now discontinued. One was Paracetamol which the pharmacist advised me to buy seperately as it was cheaper than the prescription charge. That’s where a lot of money is wated in our NHS. Pharmecuticals!
Lobak.....I remember it well, contained at least 3 drugs if i remember.
More than one drug in one tablet....polypharmacy.
I don't like that principal and never have.
If one is allergic to a component....how do you know which one it is?
If you want to increase the dose of pain killer......how can you and how do you select one of the ingredients?
Don't like polypharmacy..........never have.
More than one drug in one tablet....polypharmacy.
I don't like that principal and never have.
If one is allergic to a component....how do you know which one it is?
If you want to increase the dose of pain killer......how can you and how do you select one of the ingredients?
Don't like polypharmacy..........never have.
//The blue brexit buss - "We'll send Trump £500 Million a week. Let's fund US drug firms, not our NHS".//
//I mean.. he is the leader of the labour party i'm sure he'd be aware of such events rather than the average joe sat at home.//
Ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaa! (NJ pops up to the hospital – NHS, natch - to have some stitches inserted into his split sides).
If you object to the “privatisation” of the NHS, you may like to consider this:
- The majority of GPs are private contractors and not employed by the NHS. They have been ever since the NHS was formed in 1948.
- Likewise, dentists who undertake NHS work.
- Pharmacists who fulfil NHS prescriptions are private contractors. They always have been. There are no NHS dispensaries apart from within NHS hospitals.
- Where I live (and no doubt elsewhere) there operates a private physiotherapy service. You can either be referred there by your doctor or you can "self-refer" for a consultation. There is no charge. The costs are met by the NHS. It is a tuppeny bus ride from where I live and you can usually get an appointment within a couple of days.
By contrast there is only one NHS provided physiotherapy facility and that is eleven miles away (two buses and a train) and an appointment takes at least eight weeks (by which time whatever you're suffering from has either got better or (more probably) considerably worsened.
- The "Private Finance Initiative” (PFI) is a way to get private investors to fund public infrastructure (like hospitals). It was introduced in 1992 by the Major government. It was widely criticised by Labour as “back door privatisation” and because of that controversy its use was limited. Fast forward to the Blair government and PFI expanded considerably under the NHS (Private Finance) Act 1997. When challenged about its increasing use the then Chancellor of the Exchequer Gordon Brown could not provide a rationale for PFI other than to "declare repeatedly that the public sector is bad at management, and that only the private sector is efficient and can manage services well.”
- In 2003 the (Labour) government commissioned around 35 new 'independent sector treatment centres' (ISTCs), with the aim of helping the NHS to reduce waiting times for hip and knee surgery, cataract operations and other procedures. These treatment centres are owned and operated by private companies but are contracted to provide services exclusively to NHS patients. Mrs NJ had a procedure carried out under this scheme and it was truly excellent. A private room, a sandwich and tea for me whilst I waited for her to return from the theatre.
- Many Pathology and phlebotomy facilities used by the NHS are run privately.
The NHS buys its drugs from the UK, the EU and the rest of the world. A UK:US trade deal would not prevent that, though it may make it more advantageous for US products to be considered. To suggest that all private involvement in the NHS must be resisted as a matter of dogma is clearly ridiculous. The NHS does some very good work. But overall it is inefficient, top heavy with management and bean counters and is past its sell by date. It requires urgent reform and a move away from the monolithic monster it has become. The government could devote all the State's entire spending to it and the extra funds would simply be consumed by bureaucracy. Private providers are the way forward.
As I said in a question a couple of weeks’ ago, the NHS is not the envy of the world. It is only UK ideologues who tell the rest of the world that it is and they try to persuade us likewise.
//I mean.. he is the leader of the labour party i'm sure he'd be aware of such events rather than the average joe sat at home.//
Ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaa! (NJ pops up to the hospital – NHS, natch - to have some stitches inserted into his split sides).
If you object to the “privatisation” of the NHS, you may like to consider this:
- The majority of GPs are private contractors and not employed by the NHS. They have been ever since the NHS was formed in 1948.
- Likewise, dentists who undertake NHS work.
- Pharmacists who fulfil NHS prescriptions are private contractors. They always have been. There are no NHS dispensaries apart from within NHS hospitals.
- Where I live (and no doubt elsewhere) there operates a private physiotherapy service. You can either be referred there by your doctor or you can "self-refer" for a consultation. There is no charge. The costs are met by the NHS. It is a tuppeny bus ride from where I live and you can usually get an appointment within a couple of days.
By contrast there is only one NHS provided physiotherapy facility and that is eleven miles away (two buses and a train) and an appointment takes at least eight weeks (by which time whatever you're suffering from has either got better or (more probably) considerably worsened.
- The "Private Finance Initiative” (PFI) is a way to get private investors to fund public infrastructure (like hospitals). It was introduced in 1992 by the Major government. It was widely criticised by Labour as “back door privatisation” and because of that controversy its use was limited. Fast forward to the Blair government and PFI expanded considerably under the NHS (Private Finance) Act 1997. When challenged about its increasing use the then Chancellor of the Exchequer Gordon Brown could not provide a rationale for PFI other than to "declare repeatedly that the public sector is bad at management, and that only the private sector is efficient and can manage services well.”
- In 2003 the (Labour) government commissioned around 35 new 'independent sector treatment centres' (ISTCs), with the aim of helping the NHS to reduce waiting times for hip and knee surgery, cataract operations and other procedures. These treatment centres are owned and operated by private companies but are contracted to provide services exclusively to NHS patients. Mrs NJ had a procedure carried out under this scheme and it was truly excellent. A private room, a sandwich and tea for me whilst I waited for her to return from the theatre.
- Many Pathology and phlebotomy facilities used by the NHS are run privately.
The NHS buys its drugs from the UK, the EU and the rest of the world. A UK:US trade deal would not prevent that, though it may make it more advantageous for US products to be considered. To suggest that all private involvement in the NHS must be resisted as a matter of dogma is clearly ridiculous. The NHS does some very good work. But overall it is inefficient, top heavy with management and bean counters and is past its sell by date. It requires urgent reform and a move away from the monolithic monster it has become. The government could devote all the State's entire spending to it and the extra funds would simply be consumed by bureaucracy. Private providers are the way forward.
As I said in a question a couple of weeks’ ago, the NHS is not the envy of the world. It is only UK ideologues who tell the rest of the world that it is and they try to persuade us likewise.
There's absolutely no doubt at all in my mind that the Tories will prvatise the NHS.
Bring it on is all I can say. My experience of the parts of it that have been "privatised" (apart from the GP service which is perhaps historically different) is that they do what they do much better than a State run organisation can or does.
The State is spectacularly inept when it comes to running services efficiently. The others you mention (local services and education) are far better when run by private contractors. My refuse collection is far better since it was farmed out and you only have to look at the difference in results between State schools and private schools to see what I mean with education. Health is no different.
Bring it on is all I can say. My experience of the parts of it that have been "privatised" (apart from the GP service which is perhaps historically different) is that they do what they do much better than a State run organisation can or does.
The State is spectacularly inept when it comes to running services efficiently. The others you mention (local services and education) are far better when run by private contractors. My refuse collection is far better since it was farmed out and you only have to look at the difference in results between State schools and private schools to see what I mean with education. Health is no different.
// In 2003 -- 35 new 'independent sector treatment centres' (ISTCs), -- for hip and knee surgery, cataract operations and other procedures. Mrs X had a procedure carried out under this scheme and it was truly excellent.// yap yap yap - blah blah dee blah.
they (ISTCs) were in fact an absolute disaster and more expensive per unit operated on
Mrs N had no complication ? she was lucky compared to some who did. How many was that? we dont know. The ISTCs didnt keep records.
what was their complication rate ? We dont know, they all went to the local NHS facility who cleared up the mess.
What was their readmission rate ? none they didnt take their complications back they went to the local A+E instead.
What was their follow up rate? none - they didnt follow up.
Did they audit their results? nope, they said that had not been in the contract, so the info was not even collected let alone collated. Did they charge for operations not done? yes.
complete and utter disaster. where are ISTCs now? they took the money and they are all closed. was it Milburn? I think even he regretted that little scheme. Expensive lessons werent learnt
and the doctors gone home. were they ever registered with the GMC for their week end excursions? The GMC declined to say.
I mean - - I know this is AB - but really - can we skirt reality every now and then?
you know just an eeentsy teentsy bit of troof, just to keep us on an even keel?
they (ISTCs) were in fact an absolute disaster and more expensive per unit operated on
Mrs N had no complication ? she was lucky compared to some who did. How many was that? we dont know. The ISTCs didnt keep records.
what was their complication rate ? We dont know, they all went to the local NHS facility who cleared up the mess.
What was their readmission rate ? none they didnt take their complications back they went to the local A+E instead.
What was their follow up rate? none - they didnt follow up.
Did they audit their results? nope, they said that had not been in the contract, so the info was not even collected let alone collated. Did they charge for operations not done? yes.
complete and utter disaster. where are ISTCs now? they took the money and they are all closed. was it Milburn? I think even he regretted that little scheme. Expensive lessons werent learnt
and the doctors gone home. were they ever registered with the GMC for their week end excursions? The GMC declined to say.
I mean - - I know this is AB - but really - can we skirt reality every now and then?
you know just an eeentsy teentsy bit of troof, just to keep us on an even keel?
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