A Failure Review

[albaqwerty]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50888060

It seems a bit odd to me that Labour are having a post mortem when they already know the answer - listen to the electorate, they've told you and in some areas, quite emphatically.

[ToraToraTora]

the problem is that most of the labour party think they lost because the electorate are too stupid to comprehend the majesty of their brilliance. Until they get rid of that notion they'll get nowhere.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - I think you have a point there.

The Labour party is telling itself, and us, not that the electorate did not want their nonsensical policies, their anti-Semitic leader, and their collection of odd-ball shadow cabinet members, because their policies were unworkable, their maths was non-existent, and they wanted another referendum on which their leader was 'neutral, despite having claimed to support it in the last manifesto -

no, it's because the media hates them, Brexit was an issue, and they simply failed to explain their points well enough.

Delusion on that scale is quite something to see, and as you point out, until they stop talking piffle to each other, and start listening to the people they lost, they will remain in political limbo.

Let's not kid ourselves, Boris Johnson did not win this election - Jeremy Corbyn seriously and uncompromisingly lost it, and if they can't accept that, they are not fit to govern, and the electorate know that.

[ludwig]

They've purged and bullied all of the Blairite Tories out of the Labour party - that's been a roaring success.

They'll probably conclude that if they can just do the same thing with the electorate it'll be job done.