Holocaust Memorial Plan

[Khandro]

Council's planning committee vote unanimously to reject plan for memorial and learning centre to be built next to Parliament. When considering the size of the Cenotaph, isn't this a good decision?
Westminster Council votes down Holocaust memorial plan
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/02/12/westminister-council-votes-holocaust-memorial-plan/

[Ken4155]

Wouldn't Golders Green be a more appropriate location?

[ichkeria]

Well, the holocaust was large and it was ugly, so ...

[vulcan42]

In my opinion this monument is an ugly eyesore and the holocaust victims deserve something much better. Its intended location is part of a world heritage site, which is legally protected and I don't see why it has to be in London. Wouldn't a better site be part of the National memorial Arboretum in Staffordshire?

[ichkeria]

I actually think of you are going to have a memorial it does have to be in London where people from all over the world can see it. It doesn’t have to be huge.

[emmie]

this one is an eyesore, and too big for the intended area.

[woofgang]

PP I am not sure that Mr J does want that memorial in that place....he just doesn't want to be the person who says no.....If he can lob it back on to Westminster Council and they can cite planning, then he can say "Well councils and gov.t have to obey the law"

[jno]

it doesn't look so terrible. There's nothing special about the gardens, though the children's playground may be useful. There are other memorials there - one to the ending of slavery (the conical one in the background), where Britain did play a significant role, and one to the burghers of Calais, which is by Rodin but otherwise not very historically significant.

But I'm not sure why the government promised to build a Holocaust memorial in central London at all (would Golders Green be more appropriate?)

[jno]

sorry, didn't see Ken's post.

[vulcan42]

jno, there is something special about the gardens. As the article points out it is part of an area that is a world heritage site, protected by international law.

[jno]

vulcan, heritage sites can be delisted - it happened to Dresden, ludicrously, because they built a bridge over the Elbe. The gardens could be separated from the greater heritage site of Parliament.

[vulcan42]

jno, thank you, I hadn't come across delisting heritage sites before.

[Khandro]

I wonder how long it will take for a representative of the bien-pensant woke, to say that being opposed to this proposal is being anti-semitic ?

[sevenOP]

Cameron sowed the seeds:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/prime-ministers-holocaust-commission-report

Seems the profile must be raised -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Holocaust_memorials_and_museums#United_Kingdom

Not enough evidence?

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/275196/Call-for-Evidence-PM-Holocaust-Commission.pdf

Jews had a high profile in History before

[Theland]

The Capital is crowded.
How about the National Arboretum?
Just hope it does not follow the Nelson Mande!a theme, where every new road, bridge, park and high rise flat was named after him.
Too much too much.

[jno]

vulcan, this is the Dresden story

https://www.dw.com/en/dresden-loses-unesco-world-heritage-status/a-4415238

[Old_Geezer]

People who want to see such a memorial will go see it wherever it's sited. The question is, if it's wanted, where is most appropriate to site it. Where the events occurred, or miles from where they occurred ?

[sevenOP]

"The following year, 2000, the final phase of the Southwark redevelopment was completed. The development included the installation of the museum's Holocaust Exhibition which was opened by the Queen on 6 June 2000. This was the first permanent exhibition dedicated to the Holocaust in a UK museum; its development had taken five years at a cost of £5 million."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_War_Museum#Redevelopment_and_expansion:_1966%E2%80%932012