Vaccine Could Be Ready By September

[tiggerblue10]

Is this possible? I read vaccines usually take 12-18 months from development to testing.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/11/coronavirus-vaccine-ready-september-claims-leading-oxford-professor-12542053/

[aelmpvw]

as a complete layman on the subject, how can they predict a date?

[TonyV]

I think he is being a bit optimistic, hope not, but I don't think anything will be available for at least 6 months.

[albaqwerty]

The key words in the link are 'could' and 'claims'

Something to hope for and gives optimism. Isn't there a human trial ongoing at the moment?

Fingers crossed it won't come with horrendous side-effects down the line.

[jim360]

"Just a hunch", she says -- clearly Professor Gilbert is in a better position than I am to judge, so I don't really want to comment further than that. I'd be pleasantly surprised -- my understanding is that this would certainly be a record time for a vaccine to be ready.

[tiggerblue10]

I know Covid19 isn't flu, but my understanding of flu vaccines is that they give you a small dose of the flu as well as ward off future infections up to 12 months.

I'm wondering if this vaccine will do the same whenever it is ready which I can't see happening this side of Xmas.

[NickorWan]

That would be brilliant news, but I have to say that it does seem rather optimistic. Given the millions, or maybe even billions, of people who would be vaccinated the testing will need to be rigorous.

[ichkeria]

The full interview is in the Times.
It does seem more they likely that one will be sooner rather than later.
With the amount of time and effort being put in worldwide

[weecalf]

Why is it when September is mentioned I think of the wonderful Carol King ?

[woofgang]

tigger, they don't give you a small does of the flu. The virusses in it are killed. Your immune system recognises it/them as a foreign body/bodies though and makes antibodies to combat......Anyone remember fantastic voyage? The immune system reacted to the girl in a swimsuit and made antibodies against her so she had to use the swimsuit inside out so it didn't recognise her. totally 60's and scientifically farfetched bit a grain of fact.

[Peter Pedant]

how you maker vaccine den ?
well here is a summary

https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com/analysis/coronavirus-mers-cov-drugs/

and as Togo might ( or will) say "dat pretty hieroglyphy" - meaning there are long words with technical meaning

the oxford one is there - use an adenovirus ( simple useless virus) to carry into a a cell ( trojan horse) SOME corona virus info but not the bits that kill you

and my own tip for the top - isolate the DNA for the knob ( usually red in the graphics) - and use it to churn out lots and lots of protein ( easy - yeast cell and maga-yaks) and then inject the protein as a vaccine

may not work but hell it is worf a try

there is clearly a lorra moolah to be made on this and so the firms are working overtime to be first

[Peter Pedant]

// Anyone remember fantastic voyage? //

yeah and the bit where Donald Pleasance is in the space rover and the white cell comes and eats him, whilst he screams and waves his arms?

yeah where dat bit come in virus vaccine production

Vaccines come in various sizes - live ( flu ) dead ( rabies) - bits typhoid - protein - cholera

and the main thing is - you can inject mush ( 'the vaccine') and get a red arm ( 'the response') - but does it make infection less likely ( 'does it work' ) -
and there comes a time when you inject it into er someone ( yourself - god someone must have done this(*)) or another ( jenner and the kid etc)


(*) Matlows were drowning in the war and so they designed the Mae West so the unconscious matlows wouldnt go face down in the water - and Pask said OK anaesthetise me ( using a new Mapelson D circuit) and then they chucked him into a swimming pool. They filmed it. oh and he was wearing a mae west

[NickorWan]

This chap isn't so optomistic.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p089d0b3

[fiction-factory]

Saw an expert say that even if some one thought they had found one now it would take until early next year to be ready in sufficient quantities after allowing for proper tests, and setting up production (bearing in mind you couldn't just use existing production lines as we'd still need all the existing vaccines, and there would be a demand for a few billion doses),
Hope it can be this year though- there are certainly enough countries wanting us to find one

[NickorWan]

'optimistic' - I can't blame autocorrection either!

[gulliver1]

When . if a vaccine is discovered, after The Royal Family ,
Royal Houshold, Boris , The cabinet , all the MPS, The Famous ,
The wealthy, and anyone else who can afford it. There won't be any working class left to get it through the NHS.

[fiction-factory]

Will it be the same in your country, gulliver?

[retrocop]

//There won't be any working class left to get it through the NHS. //

I doubt you know who the working class is .

[naomi24]

//There won't be any working class left //

Where are they going then, Gulliver? All off to sunnier climes with you?

[woofgang]

oh sorry PP not dead virus in the flu vaccine its "inactivated" https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/healthy-body/facts-about-flu-and-the-flu-vaccine/