Furlough Pay Criticism

[chrisuk013]

I’m sure over the past number of weeks we have all seen the criticism that big business’ ie football clubs, fashion designers/houses and entrepreneurs among others have been the subject matter of for putting some if not all of their staff on furlough.

Many, not all I know are topping up the furloughed staff/s salary’s with 20% from their own pockets, so they don’t lose out on what their earnings should be.

The criticism they are receiving in certain circumstances is something I’m struggling to get my head round. Most, if not all of these companies pay hundreds of thousands/millions of pounds into public purse each year and yet when such business’ need a helping hand they are the worst of the worst for asking for help.

[dannyk13]

// thousands/millions of pounds into public purse//
Seems a bit of an exaggeration. Have you anything concrete to back that up?

[Mamyalynne]

Seems to be the British way Chris, many assume that success comes easily.

[chrisuk013]

The Premier League, Players and Clubs paid £3.6bn into the system/purse/pot or whatever you care to call it a season or two or go.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/premier-league-tax-2016-17-economy-ey-a8744661.html

Apologies, I never included Billions in my original post(my bad)

Hardly an exaggeration my dear friend :-)

[drmorgans]

I think some people criticise football, and in particular Premier League footballers, because they perceive players as being overpaid. Others would argue that they are the most talented athletes in their chosen discipline and earn those salaries. They are in the entertainment business and (rightly or wrongly) subscribers to Sky Sports and BT Sport are willing to pay for the privilege.

[chrisuk013]

drmorgan,

I hear your point about the publics perception of premier league footballers being overpaid etc.

However all premier league clubs are privately owned. So why should a salary of a member of staff at a privately owned business matter to Joe public? Yes, I get it the business(football) get's more than it's fair share of exposure but it's still privately owned.

You have hit the 'nail on the head' It all comes down to 'Supply & Demand'

[dannyk13]

After all is said and done the government are contributing 80% of income so they are getting a helping hand.

[woofgang]

footballers aren't eligible for furlough as they are contractors not employees. It wouldn't be fair on employees to eliminate them from the scheme on the basis of the size of the company that they work for.

[chrisuk013]

dannyk13,

You are missing the point of the post.

However you may feel, I may be 'exaggerating' again ;-)

[chrisuk013]

Woofgang,

The Football Association in this country don't see professional footballers as 'contractors', however this may vary country to country.

[dannyk13]

Chris //You are missing the point of the post.//
So please elaborate on what your point is?

[bednobs]

i think the point it, if you have a scheme that is open to all, you can't criticise people for using it, especially people who have contributed to putting the money into the economy in the first place

[woofgang]

chrisuk it doesn't matter what the footy clubs or anyone else sees them as, as Buenchico explained last time, they are not employed by clubs, they are contracted to them. This makes them contractors not employees.