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Petition To The Uk Government - Vaccine Refusal

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pumpjack | 08:47 Thu 06th Aug 2020 | Body & Soul
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https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/323442?fbclid=IwAR1WXahHf5LdHTOeAxLJUiP489pX1afHMe-335XbBNPrXuHHscjYTRFeWxQ


do you I think theres hould be more petitions such as this

please sign and share if you agree
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"I want the Government to prevent any restrictions . . . . "

In other words I want to restrict any restrictions being placed etc etc - hypocrisy if ever I saw it.
I don't see what value this petition will add whatever you believe. In the UK its already not allowed to enforce vaccinations or sanction people who don't have them. Any law can be changed/repealed. So what is being asked for is to guarantee that something that is not done will continue not to be done....even if the government do cross my heart and pinkie swears as well as enacting a law, there is nothing to stop them changing it at need.
anyone who believes that signing this petition is absolutely the right thing to do should first read this.
https://www.gardencourtchambers.co.uk/coronavirus-legal-news-views/coronavirus-act-2020-does-it-permit-mandatory-vaccinations
//For all the idiots who say no, can you prove that this vaccine is not harmful to you or your children…//

What vaccine?

This question is moot anyway. Despite all the "good news" and "thank God" stories there is not a hope in hell of an effective vaccine being developed and approved in the near future. By the time it is, Covid-19 will have mutated into something else, probably less deadly (there's no benefit in a virus routinely killing its chosen host)and it will have to be lived with in the same way as the descendants of "Hong Kong Flu" from 1968 are still around. People need to get a grip.
Interesting. As stated on here may times I will refuse a vaccine if I consider it has been rushed through. Medicines without proper trial have a tendency to go wrong horribly, hence the strict trials.

And I am not anti Vax, get my flu jab every year. All I am asking for is the right to be able to assess that I am not part of a big trial which is not beyond the realms of possibility given Witless & co are treating the UK like a giant lab.
yes, I think there should be more petitions like this.
if there is it means that none of them will reach the threshold needed for discussion in parliament
So you dont think Parliament should debate forcing the population to be vaccined then Bednobs?
ymb, The Government is not forcing anybody to have a vaccination.
That isn’t what this pointless petition is about tho.
nope I don't - what a waste of time
I won't be signing.

//do you I think theres hould be more petitions such as this//

There are an awful lot of weird and wacky petitions, have a look around.
fair enough that nobody should be forced to have a vaccine. But the second point, about coercing them to do so by restrictions, is a non sequitur. If there was (say ) a ban on trains for the unvaccinated, it wouldn't be to coerce the antivaxxers into anything, it would be to keep the trains safe for everyone. Those who object to following the rules shouldn't be surprised if they can't join the club.
"For all the idiots who say no, can you prove that this vaccine is not harmful to you or your children give me one example of your proof now please"

Can you give us the name of the vaccine now please?
Yes...the more petitions the better.
When the " vaccine" becomes available:
I hope it will be effective.
I hope that it will only have minor side effects if any.
Yes,I will have it.
It won't stop you transferring the virus but it will only cause problems to the non vaccinated individuals.

Yes,I will sign the petition as I have b...er all else to do.
//Can you give us the name of the vaccine now please?//

I asked over four hours ago, Corby. Still waiting.

//If there was (say ) a ban on trains for the unvaccinated, it wouldn't be to coerce the antivaxxers into anything, it would be to keep the trains safe for everyone.//

I think that a ban on unvaccinated people on trains would be to coerce those who have not been vaccinated into agreeing to be so This is because the government cannot keep the trains (or anything else) "safe for everyone". Unsavoury as it may seem, that is the brutal truth. The problem is that too many people believe that they can and it is leading this country into awful difficulties. A few truths need to be accepted, and rapidly:

1. Infectious diseases abound all over the world and all the time.
2. Governments cannot prevent the spread of such diseases (especially this one).
3. In this particular case their attempts to do so are causing irreparable damage to the country in terms of the economy, the physical and mental health of people with non-Covid illnesses, the education of young people and the cohesion of society in general.
4. A vaccine against the disease is unlikely to be available any time soon.

So people will have to find another way of coping with the threat. They need to calculate the risk to themselves individually (that is, the likelihood of catching the disease and the impact on them it will have if they do). They need to take appropriate measures to mitigate that risk as they see fit. If they decide they want to live their lives sheltering or shielding, that's their choice. Those who don't must be encouraged to immediately return to normal life.

Talk of a vaccine to "eliminate" the virus is simply pie-in-the-sky. There has only been one vaccine successful in doing that - that was smallpox and it took 200 years to eliminate it worldwide.

So, everybody, make your own mind up what's best for you and do it. Leave others to do what they want to.

//Those who object to following the rules shouldn't be surprised if they can't join the club.//

But vaccination (if it was available) is not the rule. In fact the law as it stands specifically prohibits compulsory vaccination. From a purely practical point of view, how do you propose people, say, boarding trains are to be checked if they have been vaccinated? Show their certificate as they pass through the ticket barrier? Try that at London Bridge at 4pm on Friday (when everybody has seen sense and returned to work, that is). Perhaps a hot branding iron on the forehead at the time of the vaccination?

I'm pleased to say there has been a growing rumble in the Press over the last few days about the need for people to return to work and for life to return to normal (that is "normal", not "new normal"). I hope it builds and forces the government to consider the folly of its current strategy because if it does not we might as well tow the UK out into mid-Atlantic and scuttle it.

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