One Wonders What The French Would Do

[Paigntonian]

if we banned their lorries coming here.

[ToraToraTora]

so they have a border post on every single road into their country do they? Right oh! TCL

[THECORBYLOON]

I didn't say that, did I?

"They don't control their borders, once in France a truck can go anywhere in Schengen"

Eight countries have border controls meaning truckers could be refused entry.

[ToraToraTora]

how? where are these border posts? I'm in France I want to go to Italy, what will stop me and where? has every single road from France to Italy got a border post?

[THECORBYLOON]

You posted,

"They don't control their borders, once in France a truck can go anywhere in Schengen, so Italy for example may want to ban them but they have no actual way of doing so."

If Italy wants to introduce border controls, it can, as can any other country in the Schengen Area.

I am not expressing an opinion on the effectivity of those controls, I am saying truckers are not free to travel wherever they want to.

[ToraToraTora]

...and I agree, but what I am saying is that they have no effective way of stopping them. Yes they would be illegal but border apparatus in the Schengen area has been dismantled so mu initial statement you ably quote above is accurate.

[THECORBYLOON]

Why could Italy not put up border posts at every border crossing if it wanted to?

[New Judge]

//This just proves what we Remainers knew all along - the EU does allow member states to control their own borders.//

Only in exceptional circumstances when extraordinary threats persist. In normal times no such control is permitted.

//So the Big Lie about being "swamped with immigrants" was just another scaremongering ploy by the deceitful Brexiteers.//

It was not a lie to state that 500m people had the unconditional right to live and work here. Whether or not the UK would be swamped by them is not the issue; the fact that they could come here and we could not prevent them was.

Anyway, been there, done that and we've left. That right no longer exists (despite the EU trying to make a trade agreement conditional on retaining it).

I think we need to move away from the exceptional circumstances that currently prevail. In normal times EU nations have no control over their borders. Schengen members cannot impose "hard" borders and non-Schengen members have no general right to prevent entry to EU citizens who arrive (leaving aside the very few who may be denied entry on the grounds of criminality or other threats).

[ToraToraTora]

it could, seems unlikely though, they'd have to put one on every road and farm track in from every bordering country.