If Someone Had Contracted Corona Virus In The Spring...

[sandyRoe]

...of last year and recovered without the vaccine could they still be contagious?

[bobbinwales]

Less likely, maybe alot less but if they have the virus in their skin from something what they touched or if its in there nose/mouth they would have immunity so probaly would'nt be ill but could pass it on to others in there breath or by touching

[bobbinwales]

Its for the same reason they are not sure that the vaccinne will stop a vaccinnated person infecting someone else, but they are going to monitor this and hope the chances will be much lower, lets hope so

[Old_Geezer]

I'd have thought vanishingly unlikely. I don't know what it needs to survive outside the body, but 9 months later, I just can't see it.

[bobbinwales]

But am sure the original virus would of gone and there cells will no longer be infectious- its only if they pick up some more droplets from someone else in there mouth nose or on there skin

[Peter Pedant]

It is certainly unlikely
all people who have been tested - test negative after an infection and so post inrectious carrier status in not identified as an issue

[sandyRoe]

Thank you all.

[bobbinwales]

Useful article here about recovered patients
https://eu.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/2020/12/07/covid-coronavirus-recovered-catch-again-antibodies-carrier-immunity/6423460002/
Am sure they can still pick it up on there bodies though and pass it on by touching. Otherwise thered be demands to allow pubs etc to open just for anyone who can show theyve had it

[Bazile]

So isn't the vaccine meant to stop the vaccinated person getting the virus.

So they could only pass it on if they have someone's saliva or nasal discharge on their body or clothes ?

[Sqad]

Yes he could even Infectious, not from the Spring infection but certainly from subsequent contacts.

[Sqad]

Bazile....a vaccinated person will only suffer the effects of Covid, but could and will transmit the virus should a contact becomes available.

[Sqad]

Bazile..even for the vaccinated individual, HANDS...FACE...SPACE..is still applicable.

[Bazile]

//Bazile....a vaccinated person will only suffer the effects of Covid, //

But surely the vaccine is to stop a vaccinated person getting the virus , so how will they suffer the effects if they don't contract the virus
?

[Peter Pedant]

The data is out there

here is a case series in a marine boot camp
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2029717

they had an outbreak and then it went away which is NOT really consistent with it hangs around and sticks around

and remember the aircraft carrier that got it
Trump fired the captain didnt he?
anyway that got written up

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2019375

they had an outbreak and then it stopped which again tends against the idea of long term carriage and intermittent infection

Those with long covid ( BMJ ) are all neg by 12 weeks I think - I dont keep the figures in my head as I really dont think this is a big deal compared what we know

[Sqad]

LOL...Bazile...typo.
A vaccinated person will only be prevented from suffering the effects of Covid or a very much more lessened symptom experience.
Sorry for the typo.

[Peter Pedant]

thank god for that....
time for the rule of 3
useful for rare events in long series

if you have done a series of 12 000 fr'instance (I note that 165 000 michiganders have had covid and suvived - thats pretty long)
and X has NOT occurred
then the chance of X occurring is less than 1 in 4000

divide 12 by 3

[echnical phrase is - there is a 90% probability that X will occur less than 1 in 4000 cases]

so all this - cd this happen cd that happen
should be weighed against what HAS happened in the million or so cases so far