Covid Jabs.

[Apc2604]

Just had to tell someone, but OH is out, so ABers have to suffer

Just been phoned by the surgery and given Jab appointments on Saturday! And second jab appointments in April.

Excitement is the wrong word, but surprised and pleased. He is 74 and I am 73.

[Arrods]

On the face of it, it looks like queue-jumping, if they haven’t got any paperwork. PP said elsewhere that he didn’t have to provide paperwork - they just noted address when given.

It seems to me that we’re asked to be patient and wait for an invite, but it appears there are ways around.

[bobbinwales]

sometimes they have jabs left over and there was a news story about some being given to homeless people rather than waste them

[New Judge]

//Makes sense judge doing secondary school staff before say the staff at your favourite restraunt or those working from home if we want to get the schools back open//

Where did I say anything about the staff in my favourite restaurant and why do you have to be deliberately obtuse?

The government’s vaccination programme (which they’ve had ten months to work on) prioritises the vaccine as follows:

1. Residents in care homes for older adults and their carers
2. 80-year-olds and over and frontline health and social care workers
3. 75-year-olds and over
4. 70-year-olds and over and clinically extremely vulnerable individuals
5. 65-year-olds and over
6. 16- to 64-year-olds with serious underlying health conditions
7. 60-year-olds and over
8. 55-year-olds and over
9. 50-year-olds and over

All four home nations agreed to follow this programme. Nowhere does it mention restaurant workers (as neither did I); nowhere does it mention secondary school staff; nowhere does it mention council workers in Peterborough or Cambridgeshire. But apart from that, there are large parts of the country where over 80s (Group 1) are nowhere near completed and other parts where they have begun over 70s (group 3) and other odds and *** who have managed to be done outside the programme. So I think a “developing shambles” is a perfectly appropriate description.

Mrs NJ and I were perfectly willing to pay a couple of hundred quid to have ours done privately. A win-win situation - we get ours done and don't trouble the NHS. But we can’t. I accept that but I don’t accept that the programme that we now have to comply with should be infiltrated by local council staff and others when it has not been nationally agreed.

//Time to look across the world and acknowledge we'er actually doing pretty well.//

I have absolutely no interest whatsoever in what other countries are doing or how they are doing it.

[Arrods]

Can understand that - it’s good that they are phoning around to use up stocks that might go to waste. But in this case, the appointments were made a week’s hence and at 10.00 a.m.!

[New Judge]

//...there was a news story about some being given to homeless people rather than waste them//

How did they contact them then? Did they just go out and round them up off the streets or did they have a few just hanging about on standby? Was that easier than giving some patients who are eligible according to the programme a quick phone call to see if they could get to the centre quickly?

[Khandro]

You are all very lucky to have such a good & far-sighted government (& Brexit) in the UK. Boris ordered millions of doses while everyone else dithered. In Germany, despite the vaccine being a German/US invention & product, the situation is abysmal, this is thanks to that most stupid woman Merkel who sent everything to Brussels so no one in the EU would get preference.

I spoke to a lady in my village this morning who works in a care home, she said the situation was disastrous, there is no vaccine or any information when they might get some, with elderly inmates dying all the time.

There is one phone number for the entire region to phone for appointments, I'm told that if you do, it takes more than an hour to then be told by a recorded message that all appointments for the future are booked.

[Maydup]

Sometimes they do have vaccines left over and thats how my relative was able to receive one. He works indirectly in the health service, ie is a supporting profession rather than front line. His team of cleaners and maintenance people were all invited to attend at 7pm just before the clinic closed.

[Mamyalynne]

Leftover Vaccine.

//Practice groups must prioritise the delivery of vaccines to eligible patients, and should plan accordingly. In some instances, surplus vaccine supply may nonetheless result – for example, where fewer patients attend vaccination clinics than was anticipated.

In these instances, the overriding principle will be to avoid wastage, so NHSEI has advised that the residual vaccines may be administered to vaccinate wider frontline HCWs.//

https://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-support/covid-19/vaccines/covid-19-vaccination-programme

[Patsy33]

So pleased you're pleased. :-)

[Mamyalynne]

There was a case in a Dublin Maternity homea couple of days ago and they had some left that was about to expire so they vaccinated family members of staff.

Far and away better than wastage.

[bednobs]

The homeless in the story were people in temporary accommodation, not street homeless