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Do you remember earlier this week us chatting about our Psychiatric training in the 70's but not being able to remember which hospital it was?
It suddenly came to me ST. CLEMENTS.in Bow.
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If that is the one, I will tell you an incredible tale about it, but if it isn't and it doesn't ring a bell, then forget it.
It suddenly came to me ST. CLEMENTS.in Bow.
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If that is the one, I will tell you an incredible tale about it, but if it isn't and it doesn't ring a bell, then forget it.
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I wasn't based at St Clements for mine Sqad. I did mine at Fulbourne in Cambridge which, at the time was one of the most "advanced' mental health hospitals in the UK and, completely the opposite, at Napsbury Hospital in London Colney, outside St Albans. It was the original Colney Hatch of victorian argot.
Hackney
later labelled the most depressing facility in London
The Hosp Secty prided himself in sending BACK money he had been given to run the Hospital. The operating theatres later were found in cross infection studies to harbour clostridia in the plaster. Yes Yes there wer ea few cases of THAT.
Psychiatrist in charge was nicknamed 'dragsville'
1970 first to employ bouncers in cas. Violet Kray lived around the corner
later labelled the most depressing facility in London
The Hosp Secty prided himself in sending BACK money he had been given to run the Hospital. The operating theatres later were found in cross infection studies to harbour clostridia in the plaster. Yes Yes there wer ea few cases of THAT.
Psychiatrist in charge was nicknamed 'dragsville'
1970 first to employ bouncers in cas. Violet Kray lived around the corner
oh True story
Linford Rees was the prof of psych and he was the ONLY psych to be attacked in the pages of the times by one Bernard Levin
BL was irritated by Linford Rees reluctance to chuck out the Russian psychs from the world fed. Big jaw-jaw about whether to keep them in and tell them on a daily basis how bad they were or to throw them out in to the wilderness. BL favoured the wilderness.
AND
Six med students were interested in submitting essays to an outside body for some psych prize to soop up their CVs ( future Prof Turner, Teifion Davies and four others, they all made it to consultant) . But had to submit thro the prof of psych.
who turned around and said: six is far too many. I shall read them all and submit the two best. - and throw away the other four .....
squeals of dismay - from men who pointed out his function was to put them in an enveolope ....
Did professors really treat medical students like that 50 y ago?
Linford Rees was the prof of psych and he was the ONLY psych to be attacked in the pages of the times by one Bernard Levin
BL was irritated by Linford Rees reluctance to chuck out the Russian psychs from the world fed. Big jaw-jaw about whether to keep them in and tell them on a daily basis how bad they were or to throw them out in to the wilderness. BL favoured the wilderness.
AND
Six med students were interested in submitting essays to an outside body for some psych prize to soop up their CVs ( future Prof Turner, Teifion Davies and four others, they all made it to consultant) . But had to submit thro the prof of psych.
who turned around and said: six is far too many. I shall read them all and submit the two best. - and throw away the other four .....
squeals of dismay - from men who pointed out his function was to put them in an enveolope ....
Did professors really treat medical students like that 50 y ago?
Let's precis my story and get it out of the way.
Medical students did 12 weeks split between Psychiatry, Skins and Infectious Diseases. In Psychiatry it involved day release to a Psychiatric Hospital where you were allocated a patient in which you took a history and then presented it to the Consultant with the patient sitting there and to about 20 of your mates who were also doing Psychiatry.
It was an unpopular specialty and presenting a case was as dull as ditchwater and seemingly never ending.
Now...to the interesting bit. My mate who I shall call Jack, chatted up these two Psychiatric nurses who were married and came from Switzerland, took them to the pictures, fish and chip supper and then back to the Student's Hostel.
By chance we found out that there was Bursary in Psychiatry which would fund interested students to live in at the hospital for 6 weeks plus £3 a week subsidence.
Bingo,
We put our case to the Dean and he was delighted that 2 students were so interested in Psychiatry that they wanted to live in the Menta, Hospital, full time.
The deal was done.
For about 6 weeks jack and Ihadca whale of a time living with these two "friendly nurses". At the end of six weeks, we said goodbye and yes, ofcourse we loved them and it just wasn't for the sex and we would keep in contact with them.
6 weeks later, we were called to the Dean's office and told that we were to write a paper on Schizophrenia to be presented for publication to the Journal of Psychiatry if acceptable. That was an unexpected blow, as we had learned nothing in our subsidised period of intense Psychiatric residence.
The best part of the story is that Jack became famous, not in Medicine, but as an author and his books formed the basis of a very successful TV series in the 70s and 80s and no he wasn't Richard Gordon and no it had nothing to do with Doctor In the House.
Medical students did 12 weeks split between Psychiatry, Skins and Infectious Diseases. In Psychiatry it involved day release to a Psychiatric Hospital where you were allocated a patient in which you took a history and then presented it to the Consultant with the patient sitting there and to about 20 of your mates who were also doing Psychiatry.
It was an unpopular specialty and presenting a case was as dull as ditchwater and seemingly never ending.
Now...to the interesting bit. My mate who I shall call Jack, chatted up these two Psychiatric nurses who were married and came from Switzerland, took them to the pictures, fish and chip supper and then back to the Student's Hostel.
By chance we found out that there was Bursary in Psychiatry which would fund interested students to live in at the hospital for 6 weeks plus £3 a week subsidence.
Bingo,
We put our case to the Dean and he was delighted that 2 students were so interested in Psychiatry that they wanted to live in the Menta, Hospital, full time.
The deal was done.
For about 6 weeks jack and Ihadca whale of a time living with these two "friendly nurses". At the end of six weeks, we said goodbye and yes, ofcourse we loved them and it just wasn't for the sex and we would keep in contact with them.
6 weeks later, we were called to the Dean's office and told that we were to write a paper on Schizophrenia to be presented for publication to the Journal of Psychiatry if acceptable. That was an unexpected blow, as we had learned nothing in our subsidised period of intense Psychiatric residence.
The best part of the story is that Jack became famous, not in Medicine, but as an author and his books formed the basis of a very successful TV series in the 70s and 80s and no he wasn't Richard Gordon and no it had nothing to do with Doctor In the House.
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