Brexit Bug Gering British Business

[Canary42]

https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/border-delays-tariffs-were-told-152805124.html

[ynnafymmi]

Are you for real,Togo.Our lorries are being stopped at Calais so that proper checks can be made on the contents of the lorries,every single box of seafood has to be checked,every box has to have the proper paperwork.One mistake and the whole lot has to come back to Britain.Yes,the EU are being a bunch of rectums,but as i have said above-"their club,their rules"...and we are not members of the club anymore.

[ynnafymmi]

Still quite a substantial minority,Corby.

[THECORBYLOON]

It shows your figures cannot be correct so they are meaningless.

[Dagman]

Can only hope this beaurocracy pettiness backs off then and we can also begin trading smoothly with countries outside the EU. It is what it is now, no point in the blame game whether he or she voted for this or that, nothing will change after all. A bit of unity from both sides of the fence instead of negativity. I can see both sides of the argument but we must move on, too much bitterness.

[Togo]

//.Our lorries are being stopped at Calais so that proper checks can be made on the contents of the lorries,every single box of seafood has to be checked,every box has to have the proper paperwork.//sic.

What? The French don't trust you? After all these years they think that you are going to smuggle diamonds under your fishy things? Stop blaming the effect on the wrong cause and then you can start to address the real problem. If these are all "new and exciting regulations" that you were not warned of then sue the Government. When they stop arguing amongst themselves.

[ynnafymmi]

Ho-hum.Thanks mathematician of the year.As i said according to the Guardian 29% of SNP voters voted for Brexit,27% of Tory voters voted for Brexit,19% of Labour voters voted for Brexit.

[ynnafymmi]

Yes,Togo,prior to Brexit our lorries were simply waved through.Not now.As i said-their club,their rules-we voted to leave the club,so we cant complain.As i said above stop buying their expensive BMWs and £1000 bottles of champagne and their ever so expensive truffles and pate de fois gras and they will soon be down on their knees begging for mercy.

[Togo]

//Yes,Togo,prior to Brexit our lorries were simply waved through//sic

What is the first Miniature doing about it? She seems to be very pally with Micron. Has she had a shout at him do you think? Or is it all another contrived "sityooashun" that can be blamed on someone else with the help of the Beep Beep Sea? Scottish fish when they are in the ocean, English fish when they are rotting in Calais. Bless.

[New Judge]

//Our lorries are being stopped at Calais so that proper checks can be made on the contents of the lorries,every single box of seafood has to be checked,every box has to have the proper paperwork.One mistake and the whole lot has to come back to Britain.//

That's quite true. But the Agreement does not provide for such comprehensive and widespread checks. It relies upon trust (by both sides). The idea is that UK traders should be trusted to abide by the rules (which they were bound by up to the end of December) and that only cursory and random checks are made.

The underlying problem is that the EU and its puppet members (particularly France, in this instance) cannot be trusted. All their proposals and procedures are accompanied by threats. Nowhere was this more apparent during the Brexit negotiations but it is apparent elsewhere. They are currently involved in a war of attrition with Switzerland; that country has a number of bespoke agreements on individual topics with the EU. This does not suit the Euromaniacs; they want Switzerland to sign up to a comprehensive, all encompassing relationship which will give the EU control over many of Switzerland's affairs. The "offer" is, naturally, accompanied by the threat that the existing agreements will be rescinded unless Switzerland agrees to the EU's terms.

They cannot even be trusted to treat their own members in a fair and equitable manner. Greece had a technocrat government installed in exchange for the EU bailout which was necessary principally because Greece was fraudulently allowed to adopt the euro even though they came nowhere near to achieving the qualification criteria. They were given too many euros for their drachmas which enabled them to buy more German goods than they could afford. Some EU members are clearly and openly more equal than others.

The Withdrawal Agreement was designed to ensure frictionless trade would continue. The UK made a number of concessions that a sovereign nation should not be subject to (such as imposing an internal customs border) in order to secure that agreement. Yet here, just a month in, in is quite clear that the EU has no intention of adhering to that deal.

You do not do deals with bullies to stop them bullying you. It doesn't work like that - you will be bullied all the more. We should have made no agreement whatsoever with the EU. Any problems arising now are purely as a result of the EU flexing its muscles. It is doing so in France and it is doing so in Northern Ireland.

The EU is not interested in seeing free trade. It is not interested in the wellbeing of the citizens of its members. It is simply a cabal of power hungry individuals intent on imposing their will on supplicant member states. The very best thing this country will ever have done is to leave the EU and the more it distances itself from our "friends in the EU" the more it will prosper. A few people may get damaged on the way but that's an unfortunate consequence of becoming involved with untrustworthy bullies.

[Togo]

//Greece had a technocrat government installed //

Italy has just initiated the installation of a technocrat "Government" too. After the resignation of Giuseppe Conte, rather than call for fresh elections the sitting President, Sergio Mattarella, has invited Mario Draghi to form an "administration". Super Mario was formerly the European Central Bank President. Guess who will be calling the shots then? He is bought and paid for. Democracy is dead in the EUSSR and the remoaniacs complain about the stink of a few rotting fish.

[ynnafymmi]

@19.40.Their club,their rules,NJ.We are outside the club now,so we dont have a say in it anymore.Taking back control,eh.

[Spicerack]

We used to have such a big say, as well :-/

[ynnafymmi]

Well we dont have any say now at all,Spicey.The EU have taken back control (of Britain,looks like).Well done.At least we still have our sovereignty,enjoy it while you can.

[Jackdaw33]

Not to worry. Fiona will sort it all. You'll be back in the EUSSR (I feel a song coming on) before you know it.

[New Judge]

//Their club,their rules,NJ.//

That's very true. And had we left without an agreement (by far my most preferred option) they could have done what they liked (provided it did not break WTO rules). But we didn't. We signed an agreement with them (having made a number of critical concessions to secure it) which is aimed at preventing much of the abject nonsense we are witnessing.

We should never have done so. The EU and its principle puppet states cannot be trusted or relied upon and we should distance ourselves from them (and embrace the rest of the world) as much as we can..

[SpocksBrain]

I did wonder, I too thought we did a deal to avoid this sort of thing.

[ynnafymmi]

As i said,Spock,the Europeans are refusing our exports( out of spite,mainly).But we can do the same to them.We can tell them to stuff all their expensive cars and expensive champagne.They will soon get the message and be crawling back to us within months....maybe.

[jourdain2]

I bought some really lovely, fresh mussels from Morrison's for dinner yesterday. They are now readily available (used to be a rarity) - they were fresh from Scotland.