John Major.

[gulliver1]

John Major has launched a scathing attack on Boris Johnson.
Saying Boris broke his own lockdown rules and made the Conservative government and party look Shifty and mistrusted .
Also Boris misled the public.
......Don't think anyone needed JohnMajor to tell us that,
most of us had worked it out for ourselves. .... I had.

[naomi24]

You heed it if you like. I wouldn't. This isn't about drinks 'parties'. None of it is.

[Ellipsis]

Nope, it's about lies, culture and leadership.

[naomi24]

It's about Brexit - and having the opportunity to reverse it. Boris is a thorn in the side of Remainers. That's why they want rid.

[ichkeria]

"John Major led one of the most corrupt cabinets in history! etc etc ..."

I think you'd be surprised.... ;-)

In any case, that wasn't the thrust of John Major's argument.
He wasn't talking about affairs, or even bad economic policies. Those are ten-a-penny and always have been.

[bednobs]

anyone can see (i hope) that there is a concerted effort from some quarters to get rid of Johnson - the constant drip ... drip ... drip of bad news stories about him, some of which are ridiculous. Surely if you are the person with a lot of dirt, you'd come out, guns blazing with your "worst" info first rather than save it till last. This means although the drip will continue, the "dirt" will become more and more ridiculous as time goes on, plus people will get dirt fatigue. I think whoever is orchestrating it must be surprised they havent got what they want yet.

[ToraToraTora]

naomi: "t's about Brexit - and having the opportunity to reverse it. " - don't think most remainers want it reversed, they know that we'd be forced to accept such punitive terms that even they would baulk. Yes of course there is still a sizeable element of the 5Cers who do but I think most sensible remainers know the score.

[Gromit]

// Surely if you are the person with a lot of dirt, you'd come out, guns blazing with your "worst" info first rather than save it till last. //

Cummings is far too smart to do that. He drops his bombs one at a time when they will cause the most damage. If there is a VONC he will have a bomb for then. If there is a leadership challenge, he will have a bomb for then. If they lose a by election, another one. Probably a big one for the Party conference (if Boris survives that long).

[ToraToraTora]

I think gromit is getting aroused!

[Gromit]

It is not about Brexit, it is about revenge.
Cummings was the architect of Brexit, not Boris.
It is Cummings masterminding Boris’ downfall not the remainers.

[jim360]

// It's about Brexit - and having the opportunity to reverse it. Boris is a thorn in the side of Remainers. //

This is just the worst take in the history of bad takes. Removing Johnson wouldn't make the slightest difference towards reversing Brexit, even before you take into account TTT's point that most Remainers have moved on.

[naomi24]

For Cummings it's about revenge. That's not the impetus for the rest of the disloyal rats.

[naomi24]

^That to Gromit.

[jim360]

Also, not that it matters, but anyone who *does* want Brexit reversed must surely see that they'd have to play the long game anyway. I can think of nothing more damaging to the UK right now than establishing some precedent that we will leave the EU, only to rejoin five years later, only to leave again after the next election cycle; and so on, ad infinitum.

[naomi24]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-resign-brexit-heseltine-b1997429.html

[Stickybottle]

Nothing at all to do with Brexit

Not even about adultery because despite what Major did he is still outdone by Boris

Adultery is not a criminal offence

It is about breaking the law on several occasions whilst in charge of the country then lying about it to the public and parliament alike with some of the most pathetic excuses imaginable
It is about actions and accountability
Boris and the gang deem themselves above such responsibilities

Hence Major is right about Boris looking like a clown to the rest of the world and the British political system and democracy are a joke to foreign leaders

[gulliver1]

"For Cumming it's about revenge"
....Hell has no wrath than that of a senior adviser ...Scorned ..... go for it Dom.

[Ellipsis]

It may be about revenge, but if he had no ammo there wouldn't be a problem ... I'm not interested in the revenge, but am interested in the ammo material.

[naomi24]

Get the little people interested in that - and frothing at the mouth at the unfairness of it all if possible - and the job's half done.

[Ellipsis]

The commoners are revolting ...

[CrapAtCryptics]

The grey pea eating man is an out and out t*ss*r