A Year Of Taliban Rule In Afghanistan

[naomi24]

Under Taliban rule quality of life for women in Afghanistan is deteriorating rapidly, as this link illustrates.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-62535300

I watched a documentary the other day about a women's hospital that has just one female doctor. Only females are allowed to treat females and since girls are no longer educated beyond the age of about 11 or 12, it follows that for women an aspiration to a career in any professional capacity is futile. A thing of the past. The unavoidable consequence of this appalling neglect is that very soon there will be no teachers for women and no access to medical treatment. A truly terrifying prospect.

What can the wider world do? What should it do? Or should it sit by and do nothing?

[Gromit]

Our excuse for the invasion of Afghanistan was to eliminate al Queda. They almost certainly scarpered to Pakistan before the first American boot touched the ground.
It would have taken the Americans days, if not a couple of weeks to find there was no one there, and they should have immediately returned.

[ToraToraTora]

didn't hurt did it!

[tomus42]

We had our chance to do something about that place, and either blew it, or were attempting the impossible to begin with.

I like ellipsis idea but I think it'll become increasingly hard for women to escape from there.

[FatticusInch]

ToraToraTora
//well Fatti just because we disagree on some things does not mean we can't align on others.//

But I’m a 5Cer, so by that edict we can’t possibly align?
It’s a silly tag you give to anyone with an opposing view to yours, it thus renders discussion impossible.
I’m learning to avoid such threads.

[Gromit]

ok Gromit TTT over to you. When Sleepy Joe handed it back do you think we should have stayed?

[ToraToraTora]

fatti: "But I’m a 5Cer, so by that edict we can’t possibly align?"
- don't be a wally, that's just one subject of many.
"It’s a silly tag you give to anyone with an opposing view to yours, it thus renders discussion impossible." - no I give to to those that would rather our country was run by another country, discussion is possible on other subjects even this one if you are prepared to engage in discussion.
"I’m learning to avoid such threads." - not very successfully it seems.
You are turning this into a 5C discussion not me.

[Ellipsis]

> Pipe dream as your answer is, ellipsis, it gets BA.

Thanks. It is a pipe dream, designed to illustrate just how irrational the whole situation is there ...

The only country in the world to deny girls an education. The only one. They should be ashamed of themselves, but they're obviously not.

[davebro]

I think the whole place would provide an ideal testing ground for a new generation of nuclear weapons!

[FatticusInch]

That’s why I posted on it so late, I knew it would be pointless.

ToraToraTora’s
// no I give to to those that would rather our country was run by another country,//

I had no idea the Taliban in Afghanistan were trying to take over the running of the UK?
It is the Taliban that’s being discussed isn’t it?
That’s where your broad-spectrum ‘5C testicles’ comes into it.
Furthermore, point out where I’ve ever said I’d like the UK run by anyone other than a UK government?
You take critics of a Tory government as an automatic green light to label such as poltroons, 5Cers, paper tigers, the usual schoolyard nonsense.
Billy Bluster from Blighty is how you’re regarded, incapable of looking at an opposing view, a jingoistic flag-shagger, the sort everyone avoids making eye contact with in the pub for fear of having their evening spoiled by your unwavering views but in reality…..

Boring and tedious.

[ToraToraTora]

don't be obtuse, the people I call 5C are the anti British. This has nothing to do with Afghanistan.

[ToraToraTora]

Fatti: "Boring and tedious. " - so is raising irrelevant cobras on unrelated threads. We where talking about Afghanistan not other things that you've got your Alans in a Brahms about. You started all the 5C stuff on this thread not me.

[Gromit]

TTT
The 5C nonsense on this thread was started by you.

// Usual 5C tripe from Gromit I see. //
11:21 Mon 15th Aug 2022

[youngmafbog]

Let me correct it TTT.

Usual anti British tripe posted by Gromit.

[ToraToraTora]

ok fair enough I did say 5C early on, hands up. I was responding to the standard 5C approach of Gromit.

[Peter Pedant]

Naomi must be pleased to see the course this thread has taken.

5C means ? ( yeah 5C wot dat den?)

no amount of schools for girls in Afghanistan is worth a british life. I thought we went in b/c of drugs

[fender62]

looking at the taliban celebrating there victory in kabul, all the blokes look like they belong in another century but carrying modern weapons.
didnt alexander the great try and tame it, and others after him and all failed.. other muslim countries let girls go to school etc, the taliban must fear females learning, odd because there prophets wife was supposed to be very smart, what can the west do erm nothing sadly.

[FatticusInch]

ToraToraTora
//don't be obtuse, the people I call 5C are the anti British.//

You mean the likes of Liz Truss, the Remainer and anti-monarchist, your heroine, saviour and avatar image? PMSL

[Old_Geezer]

So, no surprise then.

Other nations can not commit to protecting a foreign one indefinitely. I'm no supporter of how the US just suddenly withdrew, it caused many problems. But if the Afghanistan military were incapable of holding it's own nation then it seems to be a bit of a lost cause at this time.

The individual citizens don't deserve this guano, but the nation as a whole allowed it to occur.

Maybe one needs to wait until a nation is ready for civilised democracy rather than try to let them benefit from it before they can run it for themselves.

In short I don't see any civilised nation finding sufficient cause to do much now. No incentive, no justification for their own citizens. They tried, and the gains were thrown away.

[naomi24]

Moreover, ellipsis, those poor women probably wouldn’t be able to leave if they wanted to - much less have the means to do it. It really is the most appalling situation - and that's putting it mildly.