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Oath Of Allegiance
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When i was 'sworn' into the army, i recall swearing my allegiance to HM Queen Elizabeth II, her Heirs and Successors. I doubt very much that serving soldiers will have to undergo an oath of allegiance to King Charles - of course, new recruits will do so. So why do MPs have to now swear allegiance to the King? Do they not swear allegiance to the Heirs and Successors of the reigning Monarch?
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https:/ /en.m.w ikipedi a.org/w iki/Oat h_of_Al legianc e_(Unit ed_King dom)
I found that odd too, I took it that the Heirs and Successors bit was standard for all.
Maybe it’s to do with Parliamentary procedure?
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I found that odd too, I took it that the Heirs and Successors bit was standard for all.
Maybe it’s to do with Parliamentary procedure?
It would appear Barry is correct;
https:/ /www.ch ronicle live.co .uk/new s/uk-ne ws/king -charle s-asses sion-mp s-oath- 2497228 2
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https:/ /www.pa rliamen t.uk/ab out/how /electi ons-and -voting /sweari ngin/
//Oaths of allegiance to the Crown are common in British public life. They are similar to a declaration of loyalty to the state.
Members of both Houses of Parliament are required by law to take an oath of allegiance to the Crown.
MPs cannot take their seat, speak in debates, vote or receive a salary until taking the oath or affirmation. They could also be fined £500 and have their seat declared vacant “as if they were dead” if they attempted to do so.
The same rule applies to Members of the Lords.//
//Oaths of allegiance to the Crown are common in British public life. They are similar to a declaration of loyalty to the state.
Members of both Houses of Parliament are required by law to take an oath of allegiance to the Crown.
MPs cannot take their seat, speak in debates, vote or receive a salary until taking the oath or affirmation. They could also be fined £500 and have their seat declared vacant “as if they were dead” if they attempted to do so.
The same rule applies to Members of the Lords.//
The allegiance is carried over
to a person
we English had a weak form - The Holy Roman Empire ( 800-1800 sort of) had a greater mediaeval form. Our History master was a german refugee so we er got the full monty.
( boy as emperor in chair) underling swearing his foef kneeling....
MPs may have to swear at each session - depends what their rules are ( which of course as we know from Boris recently, are not appealable ( justiciable ) at law.
to a person
we English had a weak form - The Holy Roman Empire ( 800-1800 sort of) had a greater mediaeval form. Our History master was a german refugee so we er got the full monty.
( boy as emperor in chair) underling swearing his foef kneeling....
MPs may have to swear at each session - depends what their rules are ( which of course as we know from Boris recently, are not appealable ( justiciable ) at law.
// are required by law to take an oath of allegiance to the Crown.//
that is the law about 1880 - see Chas Bradlaugh - he wdnt swear
https:/ /en.wik ipedia. org/wik i/Oaths _Act_18 88
You MAY say even if you affirm it is still an oath
(words) - Quakers and Brethren may disagree ( they affirm but they dont swear, )
The wording of the oath used to be designed to filter out Romans(*) - and was changed to allow a Roman to become Lord Chancellor - he didnt ( make it)
( "I swear by lamighty god to uphold the laws of england and whoop the Bishop of Rome whenever I can.....""
Romans of course saying - I cant swear that ! - they take it seriously they do)
that is the law about 1880 - see Chas Bradlaugh - he wdnt swear
https:/
You MAY say even if you affirm it is still an oath
(words) - Quakers and Brethren may disagree ( they affirm but they dont swear, )
The wording of the oath used to be designed to filter out Romans(*) - and was changed to allow a Roman to become Lord Chancellor - he didnt ( make it)
( "I swear by lamighty god to uphold the laws of england and whoop the Bishop of Rome whenever I can.....""
Romans of course saying - I cant swear that ! - they take it seriously they do)