If Asylum Seekers/Economic Migrants Aimed To Reach Ireland Via...

[sandyRoe]

...the UK would the authorities here do their utmost to stop them reaching their goal?
I think not. So, why should we expect the French to act against their own best interest by helping us?

[naomi24]

We shouldn't expect the French to act against their own best interests.... but for some unaccountable reason we do. And now we're chucking more money at them. Someone has their brains well and truly up their bottom.

[Old_Geezer]

I think GB would do what they could to prevent illegal migration: multipley so if discussed and paid to do so by the Irish government. It's all about doing the right thing and not being a total ars.

[Zacs-Master]

‘We shouldn't expect the French to act against their own best interests’

What is France’s ‘best interests’?

[Old_Geezer]

Offloading their problems from signing up to the Schengen Agreement ?

[Zacs-Master]

Asylum seekers and economic migrants are 2 very different things for Ireland. The former may be viewed as a negative impact, however, if the UK / Britain stopped the latter Ireland might not be too pleased
‘ Ireland recognises that migrants now fill up more than half of new jobs in key sectors and are vital to its continued economic growth.’
https://www.halofinancial.com/brexit/immigration-vital-for-irelands-economic-growth

[naomi24]

//Ireland recognises that migrants now fill up more than half of new jobs in key sectors and are vital to its continued economic growth.//

Great! We've got 12,000 Albanians they can have.

[Zacs-Master]

Care to answer my France question, Naomi?

[naomi24]

Pleasure. If the people coming here in small boats were beneficial to France, France would make more effort to stop them coming. As it is, they don't want them either so they're more than happy to wave them goodbye.

[gulliver1]

"Lets take back control of our Borders" said Blondie.

[Zacs-Master]

Thank you, Naomi. Unfortunately, the UK is where they want to be as they perceive it to be ‘the promised land’ so we’re forced to act against our own interests if we want rid of them. There is no agreed process which will facilitate this, as has been proven by the many discussions on here which never come to any conclusion.

[roadman]

lots of money and resources involved for a problem that isnt theirs what do we want from them lol

[Old_Geezer]

There's no agreed process because some wish to prevent any process and welcome the poor unfortunate folk having to flee from the tyranny of France.

[Untitled]

the illegal crossings cannot be reduced without co-operation from french authorities... i do not know the details of the agreement the government have struck but some sort of agreement is the only way anything will actually be done about the issue...

in principal i think what they have done is sensible and obvious but i would like to know more details

[youngmafbog]

Until we stop lavishing posh Hotels, cash lawyers and whatever to them on arrival it wont stop. The UK Government have been told this by Europeans but choose to ignore it and refuse to leave the ECHR and reform the HRA.

Pay France what we like but it wont stop it, only making it difficult when they get here and deporting the illegal chancers quickly will.

[youngmafbog]

As to the OP, I think you will find we do have a special relationship with Ireland (and a land border) so its not quite the same.

[Khandro]

In fact, the wearily familiar outline of the agreement – yet more UK taxpayers’ money going to the French in return for more beach police patrols, better information-sharing, embedded UK officers working alongside them, blah blah blah – fits very neatly into the failed approach of Boris Johnson and Priti Patel.

Clearly having what Home Secretary Suella Braverman heralded as a ’40 per cent uplift in the number of French gendarmes patrolling the French beaches’ has the potential to reduce the cross-Channel traffic at the margins, and for a while.



So long as the French honour their side of things, some migrants who would have been able to set off will be caught on beaches, have their dinghies burst and need to try their luck again a few days later. Which, of course, they will.

Were you to hold out the prospect of this year’s completely outrageous number of more than 40,000 illegal migrants crossing the Channel falling back in 2023 to last year’s shockingly unacceptable 28,000, no doubt Ms Braverman would rebuke you.

It is easy to see what is in it for France – apart from another £63 million of British largesse. By becoming the primary volume control mechanism on illegal immigration into the UK, president Macron is gaining huge political leverage over Rishi Sunak.