How Badly Could This Backfire?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-63742281
If the SNP campaign on a single issue surely they'll lose a lot of their current supporters. Not every single SNP voter wants "independence" so if she is making it clear that the election is a de facto referendum surely they'll vote for another party, probably the Lib non dems or even the greens as both Labour and the Tories seem to be universally disliked in Scotland. So she'll struggle to get 50% of the vote, even last election where they won most of the seats they only got 45% of the vote so I think it could go badly wrong.

[Gromit]

The SNP aren’t expecting to get over 50% of the vote. Their vote share in Scotland in 2019 was greater than the Conservatives vote share nationally. Just winning gives some legitimacy to their cause.

[Paul22118]

Saint Nicola's secret weapon is the number of sixteen year olds who could vote. My view is that the so called referendum in 2024 will be 'successful' and that might be the trigger for the demise of Scotland. Forgive them Lord, for they know not what they do. The Country will be stuffed and live to regret it. As a Welshman I feel unbiased.

[ToraToraTora]

With that level of pathological hatred of the English i'd say MONEIL is Nicola Sturgeon!

[ToraToraTora]

did you read the article gromit? This bit?
"...But it is likely that if the SNP wins more than 50% of the votes in Scotland, Ms Sturgeon would use that in the same way as a referendum result and look to open negotiations with the UK government about Scotland's exit from the UK." - there is no way the SNP will win 50% so making the election a one issue event will not achieve her aim.

[Gromit]

The SNP cannot unilaterally decide what the Westminster election is about. That is piffle.
The present Government are not going to back a referendum.
In the event of a hung parliament, with the SNP holding the balance of power, it could theoretically say that a referendum is their price to join a coalition with the Tories or Labour. Can you be certain your own side would spurn such an offer ?

[ToraToraTora]

gromit: "The SNP cannot unilaterally decide what the Westminster election is about. That is piffle." - agreed but that is what she's trying to do as far as the SNP are concerned, they'll campaign on a single issue.
"The present Government are not going to back a referendum." - agreed
"In the event of a hung parliament, with the SNP holding the balance of power, it could theoretically say that a referendum is their price to join a coalition with the Tories or Labour. Can you be certain your own side would spurn such an offer ? " - also quite possible and no I cannot say we'd spurn such an offer. With this post I was merely highlighting the fact that not all SNP voters are in favour of leaving the UK and that could reduce the number of seats she ends up with. I think the Lib Non Dems will be the main beneficiaries.

[Gromit]

I reckon the Conservatives 6 seats are more under threat at the next general election than 6 SNP ones.

[ynnafymmi]

@9.35.Its the percentage vote of the Scottish electorate that counts here,Gromit.Last election the SNP only achieved 37% of the vote.They will have to do a whole lot more splurging of English taxpayers money on their dole-claiming supporters to achieve a 50% vote.

[THECORBYLOON]

ynnafymmi, ".Its the percentage vote of the Scottish electorate that counts here,Gromit."

There has been only one referendum where a specified percentage of the electorate had to vote "yes" for the proposal to be taken forward and that was in the first Scottish devolution.

Other referendums needed only a majority of valid votes in order to proceed, not a majority of the electorate.

"Last election the SNP only achieved 37% of the vote."

If you mean the last General Election, the SNP received 45% of the votes cast in Scotland in that election. What does the figure of "37%" refer to?

"They will have to do a whole lot more splurging of English taxpayers money on their dole-claiming supporters to achieve a 50% vote."

What percentage of SNP supporters are in receipt of JSA?

[ynnafymmi]

Probably most of them.Its funny the only parts of Scotland to record a majority for Scottish independence in the IndyRef vote in 2014 came from the areas most prone to having a bunch of unwashed,unemployed,unemployable numpties.

[THECORBYLOON]

No coherent answers to my questions, just the usual anti-SNP ramblings.

[ynnafymmi]

The SNP cant build a couple of ferries(in what used to be the ship-building capital of the world),how the hell do you think they would have more success building an independent Scotland?