Driving Licence Renewal With A Photo

[piggynose]

hope somewhere out the can help me.
To cut a long story short, i need to renew my old fashioned paper driving licence for one with a photo. My concern is that i live in Spain, so all my post goes to a friends address. the point im trying to make is in the application form they ask for your current uk address. Would i breaking the law if i put down my friends address?
tia
off to bed now, ill check your answers tomorrow.

[piggynose]

You all seem perplexed why i want a DL.
For of all it's such a handy document.
Also it's the document most requested when applying for something.
I have a business account with a bank, along with 2 other people for a shared property, but i can't get full recognition by the bank unless i produce this document !!!

[piggynose]

Barry i am not entitled to an id card with a photo!! So I'm forced to always have my passport on me

[THECORBYLOON]

What would they do if you had never held a driving licence?

Surely a passport is stronger confirmation of identity than a driving licence?

[piggynose]

Corby, I know several people in the uk who don't possess a passport! Most of them end up getting one of those temporary ones.
I know what your saying regards what would happen if you didnt have a DL!!
As i said before i almost don't exist in the bank business account!

[barry1010]

It is, Corby. My sister-in-law has never driven, never had a driving licence and has been living in Spain for many years. She has bought and sold property, opened bank accounts, dealt with all the authorities without problem.
Brits living in Spain have to have a TIE which has a photo so I don't know why you can't get one, piggy - it's a legal requirement

[barry1010]

You can only get a temporary passport if you are abroad and need one in an emergency (lost/stolen/damaged passport), you can't get one if you've never had a passport.

[THECORBYLOON]

PIGGY, I don't have a passport but since I'm not living outwith the UK, I don't require one.

[calmck]

Re exchange of UK licence for Portugeuse one. Because of covid we were all given two year extension to exchange licences.We had to register by Dec 2021 They now exchanging the old licences and residence permits for the new ones. Process was messy at first but is now running reasonably well.

[calmck]

Piggy can you not carry a notarised copy of your passport. We can hear. Portuga

[piggynose]

Sorry calm..w-t-f is a notarized copy of my passport?
I do know 1 thing, a photocopy is not allowed!

[bednobs]

a notarised copy of somehing is done by a notary (unsurprizingly) it is a legal way of someone in authority saying "this is a true and accurate copy of the original, and can there fore be accepted as such"

[piggynose]

Btw I don't have a Brit Passport, I have an Irish one.

[Buenchico]

(Largely) for NJ:
Would the definition of 'ordinarily resident' that's long been used in immigration cases be relevant here?

"Unless, therefore, it can be shown that the statutory framework or the context in which the words are used requires a different meaning, I unhesitatingly subscribe to the view that "ordinarily resident" refers to a man's abode in a particular place or country which he has adopted voluntarily and for settled purposes as part of the regular order of his life for the time being, whether of short or long duration."
[Lord Scarman, Shah v London Borough of Barnet [1983] 1 All ER 226]

[THECORBYLOON]

Section 108 (1BA) of the 1988 Road Traffic Act defines "normally resident in Great Britain" but it goes on for a bit so I'll not bore folk with the exact details but this link takes you to section 108.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/108

[bhg481]

In reality all piggy wants a licence for is identity. The address on the licence is the one to which NIP etc will be sent and, since piggy has no intention of driving, this will not be highly relevant; the only likelihood of contact from DVLA is to remind him that it's renewal time and, in any case, any mail sent to the UK address will find its way to him. Given all that I don't really see any reason why he shouldn't swap his paper licence for a photocard with the UK address that he is in contact with.

[piggynose]

so bhg481, are you saying i can apply for that DL with a photo using a friends address without any problems?

[THECORBYLOON]

Have a read of the lunk in my last post about the meaning of "normally resident in Great Britain" to see if you satisfy that condition.

[THECORBYLOON]

You'll have better luck reading the link instead of the lunk...

[bhg481]

Well, the licence will be sent to the UK address and will find its way to you eventually by some means.The chance of being prosecuted for giving false information is virtually nil since, other than renewal reminders, they will never have a reason to contact you. So long as you don't use it as a Driving Licence I can't see you having any problems.

[ToraToraTora]

piggy: "so bhg481, are you saying i can apply for that DL with a photo using a friends address without any problems? " - I think he's saying that you'll probably get away with it.