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Putin And The War
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Khandro posted this link in two separate threads that are ignored/falling down the pecking order and I thought it was worth starting a new one based on it.
Basically the argument is that Putin, far from being likely to be toppled by his disastrous war, is likely to keep fighting it and that his successor is likely to continue it. A bleak prospect perhaps, although it maybe doesn’t take into account fact it’s such as the extent of the sanctions and the crippling toll on society.
Meduza, tho, the Russian media platform now exiled to Latvia I believe, is a good example of how the cream of Russian talent is deserting the country leaving only the dross. Who are happy-ish to continue to obey the regime.
There’s an argument that Putin wasn’t entirely unhappy with the mass exodus from Russia that occurred after the first mobilisation and that arguably it was one of the reasons for it.
Khandro posted this link in two separate threads that are ignored/falling down the pecking order and I thought it was worth starting a new one based on it.
Basically the argument is that Putin, far from being likely to be toppled by his disastrous war, is likely to keep fighting it and that his successor is likely to continue it. A bleak prospect perhaps, although it maybe doesn’t take into account fact it’s such as the extent of the sanctions and the crippling toll on society.
Meduza, tho, the Russian media platform now exiled to Latvia I believe, is a good example of how the cream of Russian talent is deserting the country leaving only the dross. Who are happy-ish to continue to obey the regime.
There’s an argument that Putin wasn’t entirely unhappy with the mass exodus from Russia that occurred after the first mobilisation and that arguably it was one of the reasons for it.
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Yes very interesting and I think pretty much spot on.
It doesn’t mean Putin WON’T fall but I agree it’s not so likely.
They said the fall of Kherson wound mean his downfall: that was spun into some sort of victory.
Similarly the liberation of Crimea, but I also am sceptical that that will cause it either. Russia is more than ever an inward-looking fascist state whose leaders exist solely to enrich themselves and stay in power. If Putin is toppled too many of those around him - the main candidates for doing so - would lose their patronage.
May still happen but it probably won’t change much
It doesn’t mean Putin WON’T fall but I agree it’s not so likely.
They said the fall of Kherson wound mean his downfall: that was spun into some sort of victory.
Similarly the liberation of Crimea, but I also am sceptical that that will cause it either. Russia is more than ever an inward-looking fascist state whose leaders exist solely to enrich themselves and stay in power. If Putin is toppled too many of those around him - the main candidates for doing so - would lose their patronage.
May still happen but it probably won’t change much
^^ I hope so.
btw, I don't know if you are interested in poetry but there are lots of
Russian poets taking on the war, some are safely outside of Russia, but some brave souls are writing & publishing from inside.
There is a collection in a book entitled, 'Disbelief, 100 Russian War Poems' - Julia Nemirovskaya editor. Smokestack Paperback, £9.99. I don't have the book, but I have just read a review of it in the TLS.
In one by a Maria Boteva touches on an interesting point that Germany's decades long assumption of responsibility for the Nazi horrors [I can vouch that it even still continues today by some] could act as a model for what the Russians will have to face when the war ends & all the facts come to light.
btw, I don't know if you are interested in poetry but there are lots of
Russian poets taking on the war, some are safely outside of Russia, but some brave souls are writing & publishing from inside.
There is a collection in a book entitled, 'Disbelief, 100 Russian War Poems' - Julia Nemirovskaya editor. Smokestack Paperback, £9.99. I don't have the book, but I have just read a review of it in the TLS.
In one by a Maria Boteva touches on an interesting point that Germany's decades long assumption of responsibility for the Nazi horrors [I can vouch that it even still continues today by some] could act as a model for what the Russians will have to face when the war ends & all the facts come to light.
The Russians put four extra battalions into Bakhmut in the last few days according to the British MOD, in an likely effort to make a final push.
The Ukrainians have now likely withdrawn: with 70,000 (at least) Russian dead in this battle over the last year or so, I think they'd consider the attrition well worth it.
Meanwhile, sorry to see the BBC giving a headline to the "colossal risk" threat made by the Russians over the prospect of F-16s. More bluster.
The Ukrainians have now likely withdrawn: with 70,000 (at least) Russian dead in this battle over the last year or so, I think they'd consider the attrition well worth it.
Meanwhile, sorry to see the BBC giving a headline to the "colossal risk" threat made by the Russians over the prospect of F-16s. More bluster.
200,000+ Russian military
13,000+ Ukrainian military
Civilians (all Ukrainian): at least 60,000
So well over a quarter of a million
Thousands of Ukrainians abducted: there is some evidence that some of the children taken have been trafficked into the sex trade.
All down, in one way or another, to one man.
13,000+ Ukrainian military
Civilians (all Ukrainian): at least 60,000
So well over a quarter of a million
Thousands of Ukrainians abducted: there is some evidence that some of the children taken have been trafficked into the sex trade.
All down, in one way or another, to one man.
Anyone harbouring sympathy for evil Putin should read this;
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I'll say no more.
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I'll say no more.
It would appear that when I describe Russians as untermenschen some fail to see the irony When Barbarossa kicked off it was the Nazi Faschists who invaded Russia illegally.Now Russia ,the sub humans ,invade a peaceful country illegally they have the brass neck to call the Ukranians Nazi faschists. To quote John Wayne,’Send em to Hell’
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