Met Police Officer To Be Charged With Murder

[choux]

Chris Kaba: Met Police officer to be charged with murder - BBC News

[anneasquith]

Well, a tragic situation for all involved. We are only getting a snippet of what actually happened. Justice will prevail . 

[andy-hughes]

Indeed ann.

In the mean time, the defenders of either side will offer what they believe to be true - either the victim or the officer was a hero/villain, depending on your position.

But as you say, the trial will sort everything out.

[Old_Geezer]

From personal experience, I  know full well that justice does not always prevail. One wonders what percentage actually reach the right conclusion. However, it is all we have.

[Barsel]

If the police didn't see the man with a gun and he didn't attempt to drive off, surely they should have got him out of the car, or are we now in shoot now ask questions later mode?

[andy-hughes]

Barsel - // If the police didn't see the man with a gun and he didn't attempt to drive off, surely they should have got him out of the car, or are we now in shoot now ask questions later mode? //

 

Obviously we don't know the circumstances, but I would suggest that at the very least, the officer will have to provide evidence that he felt his life was in danger, as a jusitifcation for opening fire.

Quite what that may be - imagined sight of a gun, whatever, is for the court to hear and assess.

[THECORBYLOON]

The man was shot in the head but that isn't to say he changed position  as the gun was fired.

[Barsel]

I can't imagine why this one person would take it on himself (unless he was ordered to do so) to stand in front of the car with his gun pointing at the man.

[andy-hughes]

Barsel - // I can't imagine why this one person would take it on himself (unless he was ordered to do so) to stand in front of the car with his gun pointing at the man. //

I doubt he would do that - when you see the shows involving armed police, everything is very carefully controlled, and no-one should, in theory, shoot someone without due cause.

It's probable that he was instructed to ensure that the car occupant was covered in the event of him having, or indeed using a weapon, but from what we are told, he fired his weapon even though the car occupant was not armed.

Once again, we simply have to wait and see what evidence comes to light.

[jno]

I wis I could agree with anne that justice will prevail; but history shows police are commonly in fear of their lives and therefore commonly acquitted of killing citizens, even if the victim was carrying nothing more fearful than a table leg.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/may/13/ukguns.hughmuir

[anneasquith]

Jno, justice is all we have. 

[Peter Pedant]

history shows police are commonly in fear of their lives and therefore commonly acquitted of murdering  citizens, 

the law is clear on this -I just wonder what evidence ( against it) will come out

[bazwillrun]

and when found not guilty we know the response from one particuar group.....

[douglas9401]

'Tora is away'

[jno]

I know, anne. But I sometimes feel it is not shared equally.

[Paul22118]

My rumour circle alerts me that there will be a mass surrendering of firearms authority cards from those officers SHOULD the outcome be a guilty verdict at the trial.  We want them, we need them and we should back them.  But as stated here many times - don't pre-judge, let us wait and see.

[Paul22118]

Told you..........

[choux]

Paul, you were spot on. I saw that in yesterday's press.

[andy-hughes]

I can understand the reluctance of some officers to continue in this role, but surely they of all people understand due process, which has not yet completed its assessment of evidence, heard witnesses, and come to a decision about the charge. 

[THECORBYLOON]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/media-advisory-notice-the-fatal-police-shooting-of-chris-kaba

 

"The Solicitor General confirms the requirement not to publish material which could prejudice ongoing criminal investigations and potential prosecutions.

Following the fatal police shooting of Chris Kaba on 05 September 2022 a homicide investigation has commenced in respect of the officer who fired the fatal shot.

The Solicitor General, the Rt Hon Michael Tomlinson KC MP, wishes to amplify the importance of not publishing any material where there is a risk that it could prejudice any ongoing criminal investigation or potential prosecution. Publishing this material could amount to contempt of court.

Editors, publishers and social media users should take legal advice to ensure they are in a position to fully comply with the obligations to which they are subject under both the common law and statutory regimes in relation to publications."