War In Ukraine

[ichkeria]

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-capital-kyiv-comes-under-air-attack-blasts-heard-2023-11-11/
 

It's been a while since I bored anyone with this. On this armistice day and first anniversary of the liberation of Kherson city, Russia lobs ballistic missiles at Kyiv and it doesn't make the BBC news! (Yet)

And continues to send its soldiers to the slaughter in Avdiivka: their mini-Somme: now, in 2023 in Europe.

Don't believe anyone who says this war is a stalemate. It is not. While the main counter offensive has more or less  ground to a halt, Ukrainian forces are  advancing south of the Dnipro in Kherson, and the Russians are unable to send reinforcements to that area to stop them 

[Peter Pedant]

people predicted the dead of gaza wd displace the reporting of the Ukraine war

Olena Zelenska has been trying to get back the displaced Ukrainian children in Russia ( Times today) Russians saying no we cant - it isnt safe !

Million children apparently

[ichkeria]

There is a terrible story about a Ukraianian boy taken to Russia and not allowed home. Now he has come of age and risks being called up to fight against his own country. Indicted war criminal Maria Lvova-Belova (I take childrenova) has repeatedly blocked his release.

Can't remember where I read this now.

[ichkeria]

I don't mind if the war isn't reported as much btw. Doesn't stop it carrying on.

[The Builder]

Don't ever think we'll get bored Ich. I'm just grateful someone is keeping us informed better than the BBC seems to.

I guess it's no coincidence that Russia has taken this opportunity to take advantage of political disquiet in The US and the desperately sad situation in Israel/Gaza. I think we all know this kind of warfare is a slow grind. I'm just a little sad that the world seems to be more concerned with the humanitarian aspects of the Gaza conflict  and forgetting the equally worrying human concerns in Ukraine.

[douglas9401]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67389342

[Ellipsis]

The war in Ukraine has its own home page on the BBC News website:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-60525350

[retrocop]

I was happy to read that the Ukranian Navy drones have sank to Russian assault ships containig a a fair bit of armoured vehicles to the bottom of the black sea.

[Khandro]

Quite a bit on here today plus several links

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1833889/ukraine-war-live-russia-avdiivka-putin

[anneasquith]

Not boring at all, I welcome your post. 

[ynnafymmi]

From all accounts the Hamas terrorist war against the Jewish people was orchestrated by Putin alongside his Iranian allies as a way of distracting the world away from Putins(failed)war against the Ukrainian people.

[jourdain2]

ichkeria - I check every day to seeif you have any more posts, please keep them coming.  It's hard to glean much from the news.  A brand-new Russian ship has apparently been severely damaged a couple of days ago.

[naomi24]

Yes, please keep the news coming, ich.  Your threads have been invaluable to me in helping me to more fully understand what's going on.

[ichkeria]

I was being slightly self-deprecating about boring people :-)

I have to be careful what I post: I've been guilty in the past of posting stuff that's turned out not to be true, but the Kherson thing has been ongoing for weeks now, and the Ukrainians have been getting armoured vehicles across the Dnipro.

Avdiivka is worrying: it's right in the jaws of the occupiers and has been since 2014 when Ukraine pushed the Russians out. It's already surrounded on three sides but I believe there is a 7km gap the Russians would need to close which is costing them eye-watering amounts of men and equipment. Yesterday was one of the worst days of the war for them in that respect. They keep throwing men into the meat grinder tho and you can only wonder at their disregard for human life: their own as well as Ukrainian lives.

[Peter Pedant]

Now he has come of age and risks being called up to fight against his own country.

well.... When the two glorious south african republics declared independence, Nov 1899, Kruger called up all the men ( under 30) with a horse and 14d rations(*). The english ( uitlanders) said not us of course ! and Kruger said "yes you!" and threatened to imprison any English lad who didnt turn up when bidden ( summoned, called up)

result - 250 000 refugees in natal. - itching to join up the British Army

(*) a lot brought their own servants. it was er a different time

[ichkeria]

With ref to my 12-09 post: I found the story:
17-year-old Bohdan from Mariupol , who was deported by the Russians to the Moscow region, was served with a summons. The boy has a few days left before he comes of age.

Bogdan Yermokhin has been an orphan since he was 8 years old. At first, his older sister was his guardian. But at the beginning of the full-scale war, the teenager was under the care of the director of the Mariupol college where he studied. In May 2022, the boy, along with 30 other students of the institution, was taken by the Russian military to occupied Donetsk and eventually moved to a sanatorium in the Moscow region. Later, he was placed in the Russian  foster family of the Rudnytsky's.

All this time, Bohdan was trying to return to Ukraine, but the Russian authorities, and personally Lvova-Belova, prevented him from doing so. They justified this by saying that he was a minor and could not go anywhere on his own. The guy was waiting for his coming of age, which will happen soon, to return to Ukraine. But he received a summons.

The Russian authorities have not responded to his sister's appeals. Ms. Lvova-Belova herself denies in every possible way that anyone has contacted them. That is, they are simply stalling for time so that Bohdan has no chance of being rescued. As long as he is a minor, they won't let him go, and they are preventing him from getting his documents drawn up. As soon as he turns 18, they will immediately send him to war. And all this is under the cover of the Commissioner for Children's Rights, Lvova-Belova.

First, the Russians came to Bohdan's hometown and destroyed it. The boy was illegally transferred to the territory of the Russian Federation and forced to take Russian citizenship. They took away his phone, depriving him of the right to communicate, and forced him to participate in propaganda activities. Now they want to send the teenager to fight against Ukraine.

Thus, the boy became a victim and witness of several war crimes committed by Russians in the occupied territories: deportation, discrimination, persecution, violation of the right to preserve national identity, and delays in 

P.S. This story is not an isolated one. There are thousands of people like Bohdan. Some have the courage and ability to fight, and some do not. That is why they are still under Russian propaganda.

 

[ichkeria]

Germany to double its aid for Ukraine from 4 to 8 billion euro annually 

[Khandro]

^^ That's nice to know that they are spending my money wisely 😊

[ynnafymmi]

Basically the latest Hamas terrorists war against the Jews was started by the Russians and the Iranians to deflect attention from Putins failed war against the Ukrainian people.Nothing more,nothing less.