Rooney Given The Heave-Ho

[Ken4155]

After just 83 days in charge of Birmingham City, Wayne Rooney has been sacked. Arguably one of the best players England has ever produced, he has been found 'wanting' in his managerial career. Shades of Bobby charlton, perhaps?

 

[ToraToraTora]

Great players don't always make great managers.

[douglas9401]

He'll always have the Mr Potato Head modelling money to keep him going though.

[Ken4155]

Agree, TTT, that's why i compared him to the late Sir Bob. I'm scratching my head trying to come up with a stand-out English  footballer who was/is also a stand-out manager.

[JJ109]

Bobby Robson ?

[brainiac]

Football managers can't really lose.

If they're successful, they continue to collect their generous salary; if they fail they get sacked with a big pay-off, then reappear a few weeks later at some other club and the merry-go-round begins again.

[piggynose]

Good riddance says my blue nose mate!

[Arksided]

It was always on the cards. It does go to show that you can't cover a dog turd by bringing in an ex footballer, no matter how much of an exceptional of a player.

[Canary42]

"Arguably one of the best players ...."

Arguably indeed, he wouldn't have got a place in the 1966 team.  

 

I always thought the Birmingham apointment was cruel, he needs more experience at a lower level before taking on what is quite a Herculean task. The Championship is a very difficult learning-ground.  Unfortunately the upper echelons of football are now in the hands of Businessmen who haven't got a clue about the game.

[Ken4155]

Brian Clough was the only real stand-out name i can come up with, who had success both as a player - 274 games, 251 goals - and as a manager - won the first division with two different clubs and the European Cup (when it was a straight knock-out tournament) twice with Notts Forest.

Old 'Big Head' he may have been, but he knew that you needed proper grounding to become a successful manager. That's why he began at lowly Hartlepool.

[ToraToraTora]

11:51, well Vanables I suppose, he was an international anyway.

[ToraToraTora]

Same thing happenned in Rugby with Martin Johnson.

[Peter Pedant]

Agree, TTT, that's why i compared him to the late Sir Bob. 

yes - Ken I got the parallel - and I know, I am one of the thicker ABers !

[Peter Pedant]

before taking on what is quite a Herculean task. The Championship

sysiphean - I think

 

[ToraToraTora]

canary: "Arguably indeed, he wouldn't have got a place in the 1966 team.  " - take off the nostalgia specs canary, Rooney would have walked into the team. The standard is much much higher than 1966. They were the best at the time but today they'd get hammered by any of the premier league teams and probably by most of the Championship.

[Tilly2]

I believe Stevie G is struggling also.

[-SharonA-]

He seems more upset with his dismissal than when he was caught cheating on Coleen!!

https://news.sky.com/story/wayne-rooney-sacked-as-birmingham-city-manager-after-83-days-in-charge-13040847

[ichkeria]

" I'm scratching my head trying to come up with a stand-out English  footballer who was/is also a stand-out manager."

Not just English perhaps? There are maybe not that many. 

Meanwhile Stephen Baxter of Crusaders is into his 19th year at the helm: the longest serving manager in the world.

[ichkeria]

"but today they'd get hammered by any of the premier league teams and probably by most of the Championship."

Yeah but that would be the great Sir Geoff on his own and he is knocking on a bit 😀

[Canary42]

///Rooney would have walked into the team. The standard is much much higher than 1966. ///

Gawd, silly me, of course the football greats of the Sixties would be totally overshadowed by Wayne, people like Hurst, Charlton, Peters, Mueller, Cruyff, Greaves, Law, Pele, Best, Eusebio, Haynes, etc., nowhere near the modern Rooney's skillset. PMSL.

[ToraToraTora]

3 Johnny Forrins have won the world cup as both player and manager: Zagallo, Beckenbauer and Deschamps.