Anyone Listening To Radio 5 Live.....

[ToraToraTora]

Farage is demolishing the morons, especially Nicky Campbell.

He argues that pursuing net zero is an act of national self harm that cannot possibly make any difference. Nicky Campbell and several idiots phoning in keep going on about the climate "disaster" like we can do something about it. Let's cut our own throats whilst China opens a new coal power station every week!

Why are so many people refusing to accept the undenaible fact that nothing we can possibly do can have any effect on the climate?

[davebro3]

Ah but we have to set an example for others to follow TTT 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 👿

[ToraToraTora]

But dave, the 5C are always telling me that we are decaying irrelevance. Why would anyone follow us?

[10ClarionSt]

I fully agree with that TTT. I believe that climate change is happening, but it's natural, not man-made. I stated my reasons for that on here some time ago, with absolute facts, and the post was deleted. When I complained to Ed about the deletion, I was told that my "facts" were exaggerations, but they were examples of natural occurrences. How could they be exaggerated if they were natural? 

People should be more concerned about plastic pollution and de-forestation.

[naomi24]

I see no sense whatsoever in pursuing something that, in the grand scheme of things, will do this country great harm whilst having pretty much a zero effect upon the planet.  It's simply virtue signalling for no good reason.  Madness.

[Togo]

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-climate-scaremongers-blackouts-in-2030-or-2035-vote-now/

[ToraToraTora]

10cs, yes I agree climate change is a natural thing that's been going on since the Earth was formed. The problem is that currently the Neo Facsist "correct" view is that it's all mankind's fault. Trouble makers like you and me digging up facts that challenge that must be silenced. I don't deny that human activities should be cleaned up where practical. I am all for stopping polution and recycling etc but I do not belive the almost daily proclamations of impending doom by the activists.

[Gromit]

In 2016 the Conservatives signed the UK up to the Paris Agreement. It is a landmark in the multilateral climate change process because, for the first time, a binding agreement brings all nations together to combat climate change and adapt to its effects.

[ToraToraTora]

11:24, did China, India, USA sign it?

[Gromit]

// As of February 2023, 194 states and the EU, representing over 98% of global greenhouse gas emissions, have ratified or acceded to the Agreement, including China and the United States, the countries with the first and second largest CO2 emissions among UNFCCC members. All 198 UNFCCC members have either signed or acceded to the Paris Agreement. //

[ToraToraTora]

So they are ignoring it then.

[Togo]

Don't follow the "data", follow the money.

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-climate-scaremongers-junk-data-trashes-the-met-offices-reputation/

 

[dave50]

As I have said before, climb activists are really socialists and anti capitalists using so called climate change as a useful tool to achieve their objectives. 

[barney4444]

Well reform just one a vote from a 'undecided.' bit of common sense being spoken at last.  

[New Judge]

“All 198 UNFCCC members have either signed or acceded to the Paris Agreement.”

So let’s have a look at China’s recent progress against some of its targets, then. Presumably the targets were devised with the 2015 Paris accord in mind:

Carbon Intensity: Target -nminus 18%. Achievement (to 2023) – minus 4.6%

Coal consumption growth: Target - “strictly limit”. Achievement - Annual growth increased eighfold.

New Coal power plants: Target - “strictly control”. Achievement - Permits increased fourfold.

Non-fossil share of energy: Target - increase by 4.1%. Achievement - increased by 1.8%

Share of energy growth from renewables: Target – over 50%. Achievement – 30%

Since the beginning of 2022, a total of 218 gigawatts (GW) of new coal power plants have been permitted in China. By the end of 2023, some 89GW of this capacity had already started construction. (For comparison, he UK’s total electricity demand is around 35GW, virually none of it produced from coal).

China is authorising the construction of new coal-fired power plants at the rate of two per week:

https://energyandcleanair.org/publication/china-permits-two-new-coal-power-plants-per-week-in-2022/

“Coal power plant permitting, construction starts and new project announcements accelerated dramatically in China in 2022, with new permits reaching the highest level since 2015. The coal power capacity starting construction in China was six times as large as that in all of the rest of the world combined.”

Whatever China signed in 2015, it is only fit for wrapping up chips (or perhaps dim sum). They continue to burn more coal than the rest of the world combined. So please, let’s not be expected to swallow any nonsense about Paris Agreements. It's insulting to people's intelligence. The Chinese may have signed it, but they obviously laughed on the way home.

Mr Farage is right: all that the UK’s pursuit of the ridiculous “net zero” target will achieve is to impoverish this nation and its population. It is fuelling an industrial revolution in China, much of it fuelled by coal, and they have no intention of jeopardising their economic growth by reducing consumpion any time soon.

So to all those eco-warriors, tying themselves to the Darford Bridge and glueing themselves to painting and sculptutes (in between holidaying across the globe), I say this: Make your next trip one to Beijing. Glue your self to the pavement in Tiananmen Square in protest at China's actions I have outlined above. In the meantime, leave people in the UK alone. When China has reduced its emissions as much as the UK has, come back (if you are still alive) and preach to us then. 

[ToraToraTora]

Yep, bang on as usual judge.

[Old_Geezer]

IMO the graphs fit too close to human industrial activity to believe it isn't man made. But there is still no sense screwing one's citizens quality of life and their economy in order to achieve next to b all while some other nations pay lip service to ecological issues but carry on making things worse. It seems to be a form of insanity to want that.