Starmer In Jobs Push.....right Oh!

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqxwv3n87g4o

Pity Rachel from accounts has just put out the most anti jobs budget in history! Should their right hand introduce itself to their left hand?

[youngmafbog]

I suppose Dyson is a change from the Tesco rant.

Dont have a clue nicebloke do you, no wonder you think Robber Reeves is wonderful.

[nicebloke1]

13.38. Take a look on this post, I dont see any practical post off you on here. So I would say I've got more of a clue(as you put it) than you. Your a one line critic of other peoples views. and zero input of detail. Regarding my rants ( as you put it again) independent shops and supermarkets (Tescos :○) being one of many are a good indication of the state of the economy.

Advice, wait until middle of januaruy and you can come on here and tell us all unemployment has gone up. :●) 

OG you correct Dyson made his business and money in the UK, HE did a runner over seas to feed off the poor there, and comes back here to mop up the British countryside with is cash.

[ToraToraTora]

talk about clueless it's almost as if teacake44 is back! PMSL!

[nicebloke1]

You just cant help it can you. :●))))))

[Canary42]

Oh Dear, Bitter Righties still sore about overwhelming defeat.

[ToraToraTora]

15:32 ...and yet so proud you are you still deny voting for them! PMSL!

typical gutless lefty!

[nicebloke1]

I must say TTT your are brilliant at flogging dead horses. Top man..

[fender62]

the petition is at 2,673,604 at this moment of typing, thats a lot of people, i wonder how many were labour voters who changed there minds, jobs erm the young should be in a job or learnng a trade, no excuses i bet 99% live with there parents so have no bills to pay..so do not need a living wage, oh mobile phone contracts and playstation or xbox subscription netflix or similar spotify for music, jollies down the pub or club, takeaway food, trendy clothes, oh and that holiday abroad, i never had any of that.. went to pub and pictures though, and i managed.

 

[ToraToraTora]

yes Fender everyone's a socialist until they have assets and bills.

[Ryzen]

nicebloke....what employment advice would you give to the redundant Vauxhall workers in Luton?

[jourdain2]

Yes, I've just heard that on the news.  It's a huge factory. Dreadful.

[nicebloke1]

18.38 18.47. Now lets not get to excited about loss of jobs in an effort to blame the government eh :○) No one wants electric cars, no one can afford electric cars. OK Now if you make a motor people van afford, you can re- open the plant Ok. Business decision not a government one. But if you are in need of another silly post, post on, have fun trying to blame government. :0) 

[Ryzen]

nice.but dim..bloke.....they make vans at Luton..used for business...not cars..you make yourself look very silly.

[nicebloke1]

Electric vans silly.

[Ryzen]

nicebloke...I can fully understand why the midwife slapped your mother when you were born :-)

[nicebloke1]

Now who's silly eh.

[fripfrip]

nicebloke1 13:04,what are the illegals you love so much putting in the kitty?

[New Judge]

“No one wants electric cars, no one can afford electric cars.”

Some people want them and many can afford them. But many more don’t want them and cannot afford them even if they did. So in that respect you are correct.

“OK Now if you make a motor people van afford, you can re- open the plant Ok. Business decision not a government one.”

That is not correct. 

The government has decided that internal combustion (IC) powered cars and vans can no longer be sold after 2035. To reach this target it has decided that this year 22% of cars and 10% of vans sold must be electric. Those figures rise to 80% and 70% respectively by 2030. Each vehicle sold above those percentages attracts a levy of £15,000. This will either be paid by somebody or the vehicles won’t be sold and so they won’t be made. But it won’t be the manufacturers who pay as they are businesses not benevolent societies and nor will it be the buyers as they are unlikely to buy a vehicle with such a premium added for no reason.

So, bearing in mind the first assumption (where we almost agree) the demand for EVs is simply not there. So manufacturers will not be permitted to make the vehicles which people want and can afford (unless somebody pays a hefty premium which will make them unaffordable) whilst they will be permitted to make those their customers don’t want and/or cannot afford. This will mean a shrinkage in overall business and car manufacturers will take steps to adjust to that shrinkage.

Hopefully by now you can see where this is going. Because of these government targets (which are absolutely pointless anyway) manufacturers will cut production and close plants, which is what Vauxhall have announced. It is nothing to do with them producing products which nobody can afford - they can do that but they are not permitted to. Nor is it a business decision - it has been forced on them by government edict.

The government has announced an “urgent review” into this problem of their own making, but that’s too late for workers at Luton. Reopening a car or van plant that has been closed is not the same as reopening a sweet shop.  Knowing how long “urgent” government reviews take, the same can probably said for many other car plants across the country.

Hopefully part of that review will be to establish why people won’t buy things they cannot afford and don’t want and why whatever the government does, they will not part with their hard-earned for such a product. But I’ll not hold my breath.

[davebro3]

Maybe it'll be like Cuba - people bodging up their old cars to keep them on the road. Even if they DO ban the sale of IC vehicles they wont disappear from the roads until fuel is no longer available or is unaffordable.