What Is A Woman?

[mushroom25]

we are supposed to be finding out the answer today - 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgv8v5ge37o

although, what's the betting the learned m'luds fudge the issue?

[barry1010]

Is any watching it?

[barry1010]

It's painful viewing

[Old_Geezer]

No. Will just await the verdict.

 

Meanwhile obviously the certificate contains lies as the certificate can not change reality. It needs editing/updating it seems.

[youngmafbog]

Very well written Barry.

 

[fender62]

men cannot gestate a foetus, so they are men in dresses, perhaps they should come up with a new name instead of women woman etc, militant men in dresses getting so much airtime media coverage ie were an oppressed minority, i think it's a mental disorder.. personally + a hormone problem, it's giving some? pervs cause, it's destroyed womens sport certain jobs etc, it makes biological females uncomfortable if not scared, i asked the mrs fender her opinion, she said it's disgusting for all the hard fought rights of women for generations, again militant men marching over women.

[Canary42]

Not today -they will retire and discuss the issue making a ruling at a later date according to your linked article as I read it..

[mushroom25]

// men cannot gestate a foetus...//

i give you Freddy the Seahorse......

https://seahorsefilm.com/

[jackthehat]

Meanwhile, over at the BBC.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c8jypk4xz7xo

[naomi24]

Mushroom, we do know that women aren't seahorses. 
 

jackthehat, not much offends me but that does.  In fact this whole circus offends me.  Men are not women - ever.

[douglas9401]

Things were so much simpler when sex were used to deliver coal to the matrons of Morningside.

[jourdain2]

I am glad that dave50 and some others understand that there really is a tiny number of people who have gender dysmorphia. I can vouch (painfully) for that.  They need help and understanding.

It is to their detriment that others have seized on their problems.  This is now the question - where are the demarkation lines?  How to phrase it?

I dislike as much as any woman (I'm happily admitting to being a woman by the way) the way that weirdos are being permited access to our world and achievements.

My dear H, who was born female but transitioned, beginning aged 28 when the full brain and body had matured, went through the hormones and surgery and seemed to be succeeding - even won a 'Non-specific Gender' category cycle race - before he killed himself nearly 3 years ago. 

How can we reconcile these extremes? I want women to have safe spaces - I want the few, like H. - to be understood.  It is a toughie.

[jourdain2]

Just seen the post about BBC sport - that's a bloke.  It's horrible.