Could All Help With Signing My Petition

[renegadefm]

Please could you all help by signing my petition?

 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/703205/sponsors/new?token=UnaUY9JLD2c9vrRJUpej

[renegadefm]

Barmaid, 

I have many reasons why I hate the fact we change the clocks. 

Main one is the fact we suddenly lose an hours daylight, as it has all sorts of negative implications. 

Crime rises at this time of year because it suites criminal activity as its darker sooner. 

[THECORBYLOON]

What is the exact wording on the proposed petition?

[barry1010]

We lose an hour's daylight either way

[New Judge]

"Main one is the fact we suddenly lose an hours daylight, as it has all sorts of negative implications."

How ridiculous. Of course we don't lose an hour's daylight.

I think you need a bit more than the fact that you don't like it and your OH doesn't like driving in the dark. What you are asking for effects 67m people, some (those in teh far north particularly) a lot more than others. 

Have you considered simply adjusting the time you do things? For example, if you get up at 8am in the summer, when the clocks change have you tried getting up at 7am?

[Barmaid]

I do not believe that crime rises. I'd say it's worse in the months where people leave doors and windows open.

I do believe that safety is an issue. 

Sunrise today was 0737 and sunset 1556. If we had not changed the clocks nearly all children would be going to school in the dark.

As things stand, most kids will be travelling to and from school in the light. Whilst that is not the reason it is a consideration. 

[Tuvok]

We don't lose an hours daylight.

Infact we lose about 4 minutes daylight per day from the summer solstice until the winter solstice, then we gain 4 minutes per day.

Also, due to the tilt of the Earth and the difference in longitude, it gets darker in the south of England before the north west of Scotland, and poor Orkney and Shetland get less daylight than anywhere else.

[renegadefm]

Tuvok, 

Sorry what I was referring to was when the clocks go back, we instantly lose an hours daylight. Thats what I struggle with, but not just me all my family is the same.  I suppose I'm speaking for them too. 

[THECORBYLOON]

Have your family members sponsored you?

[Barmaid]

Many people suffer with seasonal disorder syndrome (I'm not sure if you or your family have such a diagnosis). But that is not necessarily due to the clocks changing. Others have given sensible responses about the number of daylight hours.

Like you, we live in a very rural area with no street lights so we see the impact more so than a city dweller, but it's no real bother.

I really seems that you just don't like it.

[jno]

as has already been suggested, it might be worth asking medical advice about being dazzled. I had trouble with this once, and mentioned it to an osteopath, and he sorted it out in two minutes - optical nerve had been pinched in my vertebrae. I'm not saying it will work for everyone, but it's worth inquiring.

[New Judge]

"Sorry what I was referring to was when the clocks go back, we instantly lose an hours daylight."

Perhaps you'd care to explain that to us. I think most people would struggle with that claim.

[ToraToraTora]

judge: "Have you considered simply adjusting the time you do things? For example, if you get up at 8am in the summer, when the clocks change have you tried getting up at 7am?" - good idea, why don't you just live under BST?

I remember reading once that Stanley Kubrick used to live by american time when he was in UK and that's at least -5.

[renegadefm]

Its not possible to live in a bubble, and live under BST. 

Thats like pretending its 8pm when really its 7pm. I think that could get extremely confusing, especially for setting alarms to wake up to for work. Doing the school run, doctors appointments etc etc. 

We live by the clock so it wouldn't work. 

Plus I would be going to bed an hour too early. 

Plus most clocks these days change automatically, especially my watch and smartphone, they are linked together as its a smartwatch. 

 

Nice thought but impossible to live out, unless of course you live in a cave and have no commitments whatsoever. 

[jourdain2]

We manage (Yorkshire).  I don't like driving after dark, so organise my day accordingly.  I'm sad that I have had to say 'No' to a course that I wanted to do 10 miles away (it ended at 4 p.m.) but it will repeat in the Spring, I hope.  Otherwise I've missed it.

OH is even worse and considers himself a danger when driving in the dark, so he is very limited in Winter - that's how it is.  To add yet more darkness up here would be cruel indeed.  The current system works - don't knock it.  We are limited enough.

[THECORBYLOON]

Have folk in your family sponsored your petition?

[renegadefm]

THECORBYLOON, 

Yeah my family signed the petition, as I needed at least five signatures to get the petition passed. 

In fact I'm still waiting to see if they pass or reject it or not. 

 

[renegadefm]

jourdain2, 

Yeah but based on what you said, wouldn't you prefer it to start to go dark at 6pm instead of 5pm?

 

In fact here in Cornwall it currently starts to go dark at 4.30pm, and by 5pm its pitch black.

To me that is horrible. 

[ToraToraTora]

"To me that is horrible. " - to me that is GMT. Cornwall? in Inverness it'll be pitch black an hour before that. Blame the 23.5 degree tilt on the earth's axis. You want to change to permanent BST and yet you are on the South coast. Talk about selfish.

[tomus42]

I can't see what the petition is but from the thread I'm guessing it's about daylight saving.

I don't think we should change the clocks. We should just accept that the sun rises and sets at different times over the course of the year.

All the stuff about farmers etc is nonsense. Tractors have big lights on the front these days.