For All Those Just About Managing To Pay For A Private Education.....

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/private-school-parents-facing-higher-fees-from-today-as-vat-policy-kicks-in-13282122

Happy new year from Labour.

[zebo]

Go the whole hog of envy Gulliver and ban the buying of books for children, perish the thought but some parents choose not to encourage their children to suceed.

 

[Deskdiary]

11.54pm - your point being?

[New Judge]

"Wasn't this policy in place BEFORE labour were elected? Yet they were still elected."

It was in Labour's manifesto, if that's what you mean, bednobs. The trouble is, there are many people in this country who believe that private education means Eton and Winchester and is therefore the preserve of the ultra-rich who (for some reason which I cannot fathom) deserve to get hammered for all they are worth. You only have to look at this thread to see that. Those same people don't seem to understand that many parents who choose private education make enormous sacrifices to ensure their children get the best education possible.

[youngmafbog]

//The school could choose not to pass any of it on or to pass only a lower amount to the consumers.//

Are yoiu aware there are many Independant (not Public) schools where 6 children short would break the school? 

And these schools are the ones that lower income parents use, so all this is doing is penalising the poorer sections of society, the rich can and will just pay and wont notice.

So the good old Marxists in power have just made private education even more exclusive.  Thick or what?

[bednobs]

My point being that Labour were elected knowing that this was going to be their policy, which to me means that people agreed with it.

[brainiac]

//blimey brainiac i would expect someone as clever as you to pick up on the fact that my ungrammatical writing style is a choice. maybe you aren't actually that smart. //

You say your writing style is 'a choice'.  Why do you choose to write in such a way as to make you look dim, and leads people not to take what you write seriously?

I'm certainly smart enough to write grown-up English.

[davebro3]

People didn't vote on party manifestos at the last election. Labour voters voted their party right or wrong & many Tory voters abtained or voted Reform.

They could have put ANYTHING in their proposals, it wouldn't have mattered.

[ToraToraTora]

"My point being that Labour were elected knowing that this was going to be their policy, which to me means that people agreed with it." - yes but as has already been explained most people thought they were going to shaft the Toff schools and their pupils. 99% of private schools are just about operating and the parents that scrimp and scrape to send their kids there are the ones that get shafted. There are a private schools near me charging an amount that is just about within reach of those that use them. Sometimes the parents just desire a better education, sometimes its for other reasons. Their costs have just gone up 20%, many can't afford that and will drop out. The schools themselves will then be in danger of going bust. As above this wont affect the Etons, harrows, winchesters etc they have rich clientelle. As usual Labour nastiness hurts those they purport to represent whilst rasing little dosh.  Eton et al will just spend all the VAT on capital projects and claim it back. Labour, the Toffs friends.

[New Judge]

"My point being that Labour were elected knowing that this was going to be their policy, which to me means that people agreed with it."

Of course it doesn't. Party manifestos contain dozens of proposals and it would be unrealistic to suppose that every person who voted for a particular party agreed with all of its manifesto.

As above, many who voted Labour last July did so simply to be rid of the Conservatives (something, as a lifelong Conservative supporter, I can fully understand).

Unfortunately many of them are not old enough to know what it's like to live under a proper Labour government. That's something every generation has to learn and the latest cohort has learned far more quickly than most people imagined they would. The downside is that it drags the rest of the electorate who had already learned that lesson down ino the abyss along with the learners.

As far as this paricular issue goes there is something far stronger in play. Many people see private education as the preserve of the "filthy rich". As a result (and in line with an element of their psyche that appears almost unique to the British) they seem to believe they should be pasted for all they're worth.

In reality the majority of parents who choose private education for their children make enormous sacrifices and often end up with far less disposable income (after school fees - now plus VAT - have been paid) than their counterparts who choose to spend their cash on foreign holidays, high-end phones and expensive cars.

[bednobs]

so if many people think that, whats the problem that the government makes it happen?  thats what ppeople elect govts for isnt it?

[dave50]

So does anyone on here think private schools should be banned and everyone should go to state schools? It seems to be what I'm hearing from certain quarters. 

[ToraToraTora]

"So if many people think that, whats the problem that the government makes it happen?  thats what ppeople elect govts for isnt it?" - gawd elp us, many people think that and they are wrong, hoodwinked into thinking they are shafting the toffs when in fact they are shafting their neighbours.

[Untitled]

"Why do you choose to write in such a way as to make you look dim, and leads people not to take what you write seriously?"

because i am entitled to write however i wish so long as people can understand me and i feel that writing this way sounds more like my own voice. if you don't like it then you can go and sit on a tack. i don't care. 

[Atheist]

I thought that criticising 'errors' in spelling or grammar was not the done thing. A few do it anyway for various reasons (mainly unintentional) and some do it for fun or to get away with insults by disguising them from the uninitiated.

I find untitled's posts understandable (more so than some).

 

[ToraToraTora]

14:35 yes the last refuge of the terminally deplete. I hardly ever point out grammar and spelling etc because we all bash out stuff and there are typos. This ain't an English exam. The funny thing is that as in this case the person pointing it out is far from accurate themselves but I wouldn't dream of stooping to point it out. As long as I know what a person means I'm happy.