Us Schoolteacher Marc Fogel Released.

[nicebloke1]

Marc Fogel released from Russian jail. He was jailed for drug offences in 2021 for 14years. There's normally an exchange of prisoners, but not this time. What has Trump promised Putin in return? 

[bookbinder]

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/russia-released-detained-american-teacher-183316639.html

[nicebloke1]

Trump at his oval office desk a week or so ago while playing with his felt tip pen stopped for a while and said, (quote) The war in Ukraine is rediculous. Un-quote.

Right & wrong. What he avoided saying and should have said was, Putins invasion in Ukraine is rediculous.

Trump is without doubt snuggling up to another dictator, Putin. So what has Trump give Putin for this release of MF. Its more than obvious, stop the arms aid to Ukraine completetly? the latter would be to obvious, or just drip feed a small amount, this then allows Putin to carry on slaughtering Ukraine. Trump and Putin end the war holding hands. Putin last night dropped a whole boat load of bombs on Ukraine again, none millatary targets just to make out he's not snuggling up to Trump. Big time BS.

[Peter Pedant]

whadda jerk

dont go to Russai wiv drugs in your pocket - and he does ! ( like the afro athlete) - family " think" it may be medicinal. shd be easy to prove even tho I doubt it was a defence in the Soviet code

another case - turks and caicos is a desert off shore paradise which has gun problems - loong long sentences etcc

desperately important ( dollari) for americans to go to paradises in which you dont get shot

and so one hunna empties his hunning bag xc for two bullets. And heads ooff the T a.nd C where hs is arrested for importation

and his defence is right to bear arms ( hem hem)

 

 

 

[nicebloke1]

22.34 thks for link.

[tomus42]

//Asked about the terms of the deal, Trump said: “Very fair, very, very fair, very reasonable. Not like deals you’ve seen over the years. They were very fair.”

He did not say what the United States exchanged for Fogel’s release.//

God knows. I never expected any more aid to Ukraine anyway, so it must be something else. A threat/promise regarding further sanctions perhaps.

[tomus42]

There are alot of news items about Trump and Putin negotiating to stop the war at the moment.

No mention of how Ukraine might be involved in these talks. 

I suppose it will all become clear over the next few days or weeks.

[Clone]

Ukraine could possibly be involved through Zelensky?

 

[sandyRoe]

It doesn't look as though Ukraine is playing any part in the negotiations.  Putin and Trump will come to an arrangement and the Ukrainians will have to accept it.

[Clone]

Doesn't it?

https://kyivindependent.com/trump-holds-talks-with-zelensky-following-his-1-5-hour-long-conversation-with-putin/

[sandyRoe]

Could Trump be telling him what the deal is?

[Clone]

Aye, let's go with that.

Sorry for pissing on yours and tomush's bonfire.

[tomus42]

This is good then. The stable genius is delivering. Not on day one as promised,  but better late than never.

If the war and Russian aggression to Europe ends I'll give credit where it's due.

 

[Clone]

750 million people and Europe is whinging that America might not protect us, that, is embarrassing.

 

[nicebloke1]

Don't get sucked in by Trumps words and BS, because behind closed doors his actions and deals are very different.

[sandyRoe]

If a peace settlement leaves Russia in possession of the lands it has occupied who will think they've come out best?

If it's Putin will he look to increase the size of the Russian empire?

[Clone]

😂🤣

[Clone]

If Russia can have any success against a European collective after the pitiful incursions into Ukraine, then we deserve all we get.

We have had time, has that been wasted?

 

 

[sandyRoe]

It's hardly a laughing matter.  Appeasement isn't the best strategy to adopt when faced with tyrants.

[tomus42]

//750 million people and Europe is whinging that America might not protect us, that, is embarrassing.//

They're still members of NATO, so I think we've got a right to whinge when they talk about reneging on that agreement.

If and when they withdraw or swap sides then fair enough. I'm sure we'll be fine either way.

[tomus42]

We've taken back control. Freed ourselves from the shackles of the EUSSR. Everything will be fine. 

😂