Secret Government

[twiglet4frog]

Who are the illuminati?

[WaldoMcFroog]

Try the novel 'Angels and Demons' by Dan Brown. It essentially an airport thriller but with lots of pretty groovy information about the illuminatii.

In essence though, they were a pro-science anti-catholic society. They are said to have infiltrated most of the world's governments, hence their symbol of an eye in a pyramid appearing on the dollar bill. They're now assumed to be no more... But maybe that's what they want you to think, eh?

[jenstar]

Crystal Guides Limited. Ooops, that just slipped out...

[humming bird]

Whether there is AN Illuminati is a matter of conjecture however the "Illuminati" has been around and banned in various countries in various forms.(try to read serious stuff which abounds on the web under "illuminati" and peripherals) The catholic church supplanted Rome and the Jews as the effective Illuminati but gave back power to the jews owing to their abuse of finance, becoming nett borrowers.Islam see part 2

[humming bird]

Part2 was extremely rich in cash and kind and knowledge and the Church sought to harvest it through the Templars. The cost was putting a descendant of the carolingians on the throne of Jerusalem.(The best think we could do with Jerusalem, a place flooded with hate and murder and godless behaviour would be to utterly destroy it, but instead it suits the purpose of maintaining war...oh, did you think these associated "Western" Governments want PEACE...no sorry, its all geared to STOPPING peace!) The Templars were effectively the most educated and financially secure group in Europe, introducing workable banking, were they an Illuminati? In effect yes. The Masons, descended from Catholic Guilds and the Jews as in Zionism all have been strong controllers of money on an International basis as they realised that money gives absolute power. These groups still pop up wherever there is a problem, the Templars in one sense having been replaced by the profit engineered evangelistic groups in the USA.The Rosicrucions is a part of the all seeing eye egypytian mysticism but its a half baked US cultured mottley representation of the Templars like the KKK. The general statement is that it is clear that the world's problems do not start by themselves and orchestration is likely. A simple example is real Estate escalation...any good reason usually..no, but one day it just takes off in effect and all sorts of skullduggery in the Banks and Government is slotted into place to "cope". For example also behind Government is some empowered business and newspaper proprietors, behind them banks, behind banks the reserve, behind them eventually the World Bank .Behind Rumsfeld, the and Co is a series of levels of political and para military personell, known, but See part 3

[humming bird]

Part3 behind them? Bush has behind him..."a group" which caused the Florida conspiracy to ensure Gore was not elected otherwise the pre-emptive movement would have stalled. Bush senior, Reagan were a part, Carter fell apart because he lacked the mechanisms. Right back to WW11 have been conspiratorial Presidents, Pearl bay was a conspiracy, Nazism was supported strongly in USA, power groups including the Irish and Poles exercised considerable social and Political Influence in the last 100 years of USA as did the alcohol lobby and on and on ad infinitum. Every country has a story and mankind rushes on into oblivion learning nothing as a group seeks to have the interplanetary access to leave this planet. It is undeniable that the Churches have sought absolute power and whilst the mainstream has subsided fundamentalist religions are exercising considerable influence in all countries especially in our case USA and Israel and the middle east and Africa and other Muslim enclaves.You will drive yourself nuts seepart4

[humming bird]

Part 4 trying to find a single "Illuminati" however a good examination of those deeper than Rumsfeld and even Pearle..and US docos have revealed several of these faceless men in USA chapter. The use of Religion and Money, the taking of equity (property) for World bank debt especially in "third world" is not coincidence, Governments are not freely elected, the candidates are selected previously and you get to vote for the result.The media concerns are desirable not only for power but because the proprietors realise that they will be a part of any world Government as they control selected and modified knowledge to the lazy minded public. The spread of drug cartels and the imporation is an important social weakening which was also an arm of the CIA within and without USA. The "Illuminati" in all forms (and the illuminati is supposed to effectively be the antichrist) has three points on the serfdom triangle, Money Religion and Control of the military. In that control is the vast spy groups such as Echelon,Ins law and so on. Every citizen is spied on in detail, phones, emails, faxes, credit and bank cards Social Security, Taxation and the USA uses Australia as one massive leg of that.For more detail read of "Promis" in "Profits of War" sold to numerous Governments including Australia and the downloading facilities built in by Israel and USA The Australian Federal Government used the Olympics to close the lines on lethal military control of the population for example. No one will pop up and say "Hi, Illuminati calling"..all you can do is resist and read and not follow the Pied piper..or you can be born, capitulate, live a mildly fulfilled existence and die. Cheers

[Bob A Job]

Simple then, There was me thinking that the 'Illuminati' were a bit like 'umpa lumpas' Making the world a better place.

[Dazzler]

All oompa lumpas ARE actually illuminati members, although Wonka himself is only a Freemason.

[tracymort]

I always thought they were some kind reptilian alien species disguised as humans like Bush and the Queen. Ike goes on about them or something!

[humming bird]

Hi..yes all very amusing, but we are speaking of groups that decide your life and mine through deciding the choices we will ultimately have to make. These groups might kill yor mother or brother, sister wife or child to control YOU. It happened to Ari ben Menashe who wrote "Profits of War". Let's take just one ever day donkey who was, to all intents and purposes, above the rest... JFK.Rich as all get out, well connected, big Irish family, married the "right" girl. Had the right kids. Tried to help the Negroes as he was Catholic. Screwed around,(how could any President not realise this is the big "set up"??? decent bloke by and large, too deep maybe , shaped up to Cuba, put the entire world at risk, had nasty friends like the brother in law, Peter, who got women for him and also mixed with other low life crawlers like the 'Mafia', friends of "would be if they could be's" like Sinatra. Probably done over by the same lot of creeps as did over Marilyn Monroe, (I mean how tough can you be...doing HER over, boy, what real tough men they were!!) Stuck his neck out once too often and got done over, probably by the CIA as the tool of the mafia using as a diversion a poor useless "communist sympathiser" He got blown away before he could talk by a "public minded citizen"..I feel like vomiting as I remember.....Only thing worse than a psycopathic killer(I really detest the putain ignorence of the term "serial killer")is a "commy sympathiser in downtown dopy, incredibly stupid and the "wanting to be mislead at any cost" fantasising, neurotically "blew the fuse" paranoic USA. Smart operators organised the whole bit..it doesn't matter who go or how many go or how nastily they go...they go and there are so many examples in our own time..its no laughing matter. NO 'serial killer' went anywhere near the quantum murders organised by the Whitehouse, CIA or Israel, the latter, as does USA, decides each year who will be assassinated throughout the world to see part 2

[humming bird]

part 2 'make life easier' ..see "Profits of War" . I realise theat USA is a truly sick nation when it comes to bizarre over weaponed people but the reason for disarming the public is so we cannot resist ..Australia is exactly the same.The essential problem with all "terrorists"...******* who are highly motivated" is that they leave the true social criminals alone and kill ordinary people instead of having the balls to be upfront and target the politicians and faceless men who actually create the powerlessness and manipulation. Why..because the plan is to let it happen. Whose plan?...start reading and stop pretending this world is a series of odd coincidences.Its terribly funny "coincidental" when someone else is dug up as a putrescent mass of maggots via the "illuminati" but no joke when it happens to you..eh??Look at the Iraq invasion top realise just how powerful these "faceless" forces are..more than two thirds of the world objected but they did it anyway..and now the stage is set for thousands of years of retribution...exactly what was wanted.. as the incompetent USA, as is desired, blunders further into chaos in Iraq.How about asking "where was the 'plane that supposedly demolished part of the Pentagon'...that might be a good shock to start with..Illuminati..one or more??..who knows but the patterns of change are too regular to be coincidences. Cheers

[Canib]

take a look at http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/

[Samedibee]

humming bird, how do you know all this, i wouldnt mind talking to you privately.

[twiglet4frog]

ok research states that the founder of the illuminati started his plan for world domination in 1776 and his name was Adam Weishaupt a jesuit priest that fell out of favour with catholic teachings. this is where the illuminati first formed. The Pyramid and Eye symbol on the dollar bill is clearly seen on google if u click "images" and then type dollar bill. if u look at the image of the pyramid the roman nummerals are there on it stating the year 1776. Curiouser and curiouser!!!

[AB Editor]

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