EV 748 xword + letter jumble puzzle

[lector]

Asked before - but not yet answered

4d) Stake ends in vampire's last trauma (often spoiling)
(5)

the first letter is either g, i, s

the 2nd, 3rd or 4th letter is an N

6d) Seizes Eastern coasting vessels (5)

the first letter is either g, i, s

7d) Domestic subordinate's got time for fellow (8)

the first letter is either g, i, s

the last letter is R


{if 4d) above starts with the letter 'g' then, the 6d) and 7d) cannot ...... similarly if 4d) starts with i or s}

[geo0939]

6d Grabs? Barges without the E.

[pjwillcox]

4d stang - I think (inserted as STNAG)

[lector]

thank you

so 4d) begins with letter i or s

and similarly 7d)

[pjwillcox]

apart from 5D and 7D, which are still elusive, i'm not clear on 16A sun harmed topless birds which starts with U and ends with D (I think). Have you got tt?

[lector]

hi pjwillcox -

my dictionary says stang is an obsolete form of sting

can you explain the cryptic clue ..... how u arrive at stang?

it fits well in the top left-hand corner ..... so, it seems right!

[kayakamina]

PJW (s)un (h)armed

[lector]

pjwillcox ---

yes, got that one .... unarmed

( sun harmed topless = (s) un (h) armed

[lector]

pjwillcox -

assuning stang is correct (but, I don't yet understand the cryptic nature of the clue) ....

I jhave now completed the grid in Top left / Bottom Left / Bottom Right

looks as if 7d) starts with an i and ends with an r (definitely)

I have been wondering about 'inferior' for the answer?

[lector]

forget that idea ----- the middle letters of 'inferior' do not have any letter to go into the middle letters of 19a) anser which is 'upstage' !!

[lector]

pjwillcox

what do you think of 'interior' as an answer to 7d) ?

'domestic' could mean 'interior' (re a country's affairs eg Interior Minister)

just cant see the rest of the cryptic!

perhaps this is the warning from the compiler being applied ' some clues do not make sense'!!

similarly for 4d) 'stang' is a trauma (a sting is a trauma) and the rest of the clue does not make sense?

I am going with these answers now (stang / grabs / interior) and using these words have now completed the grid / diagram .....

I shall send this entry in (after highlighting the lsat three words in the diagram! (presumably this is to help identify possible correct ansers?)

let me know if you need any more help

[geo0939]

I think you have it there, Subordinate= inferior, change T-time for F fellow .

[geo0939]

PS Domestic= Interior.

[lector]

thanks geo0939

now I fully understand this clue ...

can you offer a full explanation for 'stang'

I don't like loose ends!

[lector]

Clue 4d) Stake ends in vampire's last trauma (often spoiling)

The answer seems to be 'Stang'

Could the first word in the clue 'Stake' (be referring to 'money risked on a gamble'?) and the answer to this element of the clue be 'Stag' (as in a gamble on new share issue?)

if so ..... where does the letter N come from (where's the vampire!!)

[pjwillcox]

Hi lector - many tks. Stang is in Chambers at entry 1 as a stake or pole.

[lector]

thanks pjwillcox ..... but what about the vampire' last trauma (often spoiling)!!