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If Jesus was the only begotten son of god.(John 3:16), who were the sons of god mentioned thousands of years before he was born in Genesis 6:2?
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The bible scholar, H.C. Leupold, believed that the "sons of God," were descendents of Seth, the godly line who are detailed in Genesis 4:25 - 5:32.
Lepold wrote, "But who were these "sons of God?" Without a shadow of doubt, the Sethites."
In this view, the descendents of Seth became wayward, and and married the, "daughters of men," indiscriminately, basing their choice only on appearance, without concern for godliness, and the nephilim were their offspring.
Lepold wrote, "But who were these "sons of God?" Without a shadow of doubt, the Sethites."
In this view, the descendents of Seth became wayward, and and married the, "daughters of men," indiscriminately, basing their choice only on appearance, without concern for godliness, and the nephilim were their offspring.
Theland, 'in his view'? We all have views which are all just as valid, because no one, no matter how scholarly, knows what really happened - but his offers a way to worm around an awkward question, so it seems that'll do for you.
If these sons of god were indeed men, then how come their children were giants? There has to be more to it than that.
If these sons of god were indeed men, then how come their children were giants? There has to be more to it than that.
Well I can only suppose that his, "view," would be different to others views, as he would be able to bring more historical context into his study than the rest of us.
Similarly, scientsts also hold "views" that abiogenesis is a fact, even though it has never been demonstrated. They just say it must have been like that, as the possibility of the existence of God is anathaema to them.
Similarly, scientsts also hold "views" that abiogenesis is a fact, even though it has never been demonstrated. They just say it must have been like that, as the possibility of the existence of God is anathaema to them.
Theland, none of this is relevant to this question. We're not talking about the creation of the world, or about evolution. The bible, in this instance, makes a definite distinction between the "sons of god" and "the daughters of man". If we assume that the daughters of man were indeed that, if they had mated with ordinary men, any resulting children would have been ordinary people. However, we're told these women mated with the sons of god, and the children they produced weren't ordinary - they were giants, and therefore something else must have been going on.
Could it be that the numerous scholars, philosophers etc that lent their services to the various versions of the bible later decided to omit the parts that didn't quite fit into their book of enlightenment and the stories of these beings from another world/s mating with mortal earth women were hidden or purposefully lost?
Luna, I think many writings have been omitted from the bible because they didn't fit - the Book of Enoch for example -but there's still plenty in there to suggest that things in ancient times were not quite as the church would have us believe.
Theland, why should the stature of these children deviate from the norm if they were born of normal parents? The bible tells us specifically that they were giants, so they must have been quite different to the rest of the population.
Theland, why should the stature of these children deviate from the norm if they were born of normal parents? The bible tells us specifically that they were giants, so they must have been quite different to the rest of the population.
Wizard, and Luna, check this out. You might find it interesting.
http://www.sacredsites.com/middle_east/lebanon /baalbek.htm
I'm not suggesting for a moment that these monstrous, ancient stones are evidence of giants living on earth, or that they prove anything - but I've been there and I've seen them - and they are incredible. I have to wonder how ordinary men, if the builders were ordinary men, could have moved and positioned such enormous stones - and why they wanted to work with such unmanageable weights and dimensions in the first place?
http://www.sacredsites.com/middle_east/lebanon /baalbek.htm
I'm not suggesting for a moment that these monstrous, ancient stones are evidence of giants living on earth, or that they prove anything - but I've been there and I've seen them - and they are incredible. I have to wonder how ordinary men, if the builders were ordinary men, could have moved and positioned such enormous stones - and why they wanted to work with such unmanageable weights and dimensions in the first place?
Giants
Wizard and Luna - I googled and came across this. It might not be the best website on the subject, but I haven't got time to search for more. http://s8int.com/giants4.html
Wizard and Luna - I googled and came across this. It might not be the best website on the subject, but I haven't got time to search for more. http://s8int.com/giants4.html
Hello naomi, I've briefly looked at the sites you have posted and there are some intriguing pieces within.I shall look at them in more detail a little later.
I don't know if you posess this book; "From The Ashes Of Angels" by Andrew Collins?
Your question has prompted me to peruse the pages once again as I bought it about ten years ago.
He, like yourself is trying to find the truth behind the stories of the forbidden legacy of a fallen race sometimes called Watchers and sometimes The Nephilim. He states there are also close connections to the Adam & Eve story because these large race of beings were said to have very gaunt faces, strange snake-like eyes and were purported to have had corrupted earth women and men by giving them sacred knowledge only kept for higher beings.This may be connected to the later written Judaeo and Christian belief about Eve talking to a snake and it giving her info normally reserved for the gods/ancient people as their tree of knowledge.The nephilim could of been giants or in relation to others on earth, a very tall race much like some African tribes.Either way, I don't think Andrew Collins comes to any hard conclusion but does offer many alternatives on a theme, all of which I find fascinating. I could add more details but would fill up the rest of Answerbank with these stories.
Also, Do these giants have any connection with the building of the Pyramids? Many archaeologists,scientists and architects have said in the time stated, it would of been impossible for even the largest amount of slaves to move and position the tons of stone to their desired location with the precision they were supposed to have used.
I don't know if you posess this book; "From The Ashes Of Angels" by Andrew Collins?
Your question has prompted me to peruse the pages once again as I bought it about ten years ago.
He, like yourself is trying to find the truth behind the stories of the forbidden legacy of a fallen race sometimes called Watchers and sometimes The Nephilim. He states there are also close connections to the Adam & Eve story because these large race of beings were said to have very gaunt faces, strange snake-like eyes and were purported to have had corrupted earth women and men by giving them sacred knowledge only kept for higher beings.This may be connected to the later written Judaeo and Christian belief about Eve talking to a snake and it giving her info normally reserved for the gods/ancient people as their tree of knowledge.The nephilim could of been giants or in relation to others on earth, a very tall race much like some African tribes.Either way, I don't think Andrew Collins comes to any hard conclusion but does offer many alternatives on a theme, all of which I find fascinating. I could add more details but would fill up the rest of Answerbank with these stories.
Also, Do these giants have any connection with the building of the Pyramids? Many archaeologists,scientists and architects have said in the time stated, it would of been impossible for even the largest amount of slaves to move and position the tons of stone to their desired location with the precision they were supposed to have used.
Luna, no I haven't read that, but I'll get it. This subject fascinates me. I know there has to be something in all these ancient texts that we're missing.
I don't know if giants had anything to do with building the pyramids, but it's possible I suppose. There's certainly a lot that we don't know about the pyramids. The ancient civilisations of South America also need serious investigation. They built with enormous blocks of stone too, and fitted them together so perfectly that it's impossible to get a sheet of paper between them. How did they do it? No one knows, but I'd love to find out.
I don't know if giants had anything to do with building the pyramids, but it's possible I suppose. There's certainly a lot that we don't know about the pyramids. The ancient civilisations of South America also need serious investigation. They built with enormous blocks of stone too, and fitted them together so perfectly that it's impossible to get a sheet of paper between them. How did they do it? No one knows, but I'd love to find out.
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