Christian Values And British Culture

[Theland]

Calls for positive discrimination in recruitment for police and fire service, amongst others, are unfair on white British people, but hardly surprising given our own tendency to attack one of the mainstays of white British culture, Christianity. Whether you are a believer or not, do you not recognise that undermining Christian beliefs and values, gives ground to Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus, Greens, etc, whose agenda is precisely to change our culture into a melting pot of values, whilst maintaning their own cultural identity?

[Theland]

As a taste, the subject has been touched upon here.
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question39 5797.html

[Theland]

As Littlejohn said in the Daily Mail, the Notting hill carnival could be accused of being too Caribean, but nobody says so.

[redhead23]

i agree with u

[WaldoMcFroog]

It's almost amusing that you're trying to appropriate a religon based on a story about a non-white man to act as a mainstay of white culture, except for the fact that by using the word 'white' as another word for British, you're also giving the appearence of having some idiotic views that Jesus would have a major problem with.

I always like to ask 'What would Jesus do?' Don't think he'd read the Daily Mail, and burn crosses on the front lawn somehow.

[Theland]

Not white culture Waldo, British culture. Shouldn't we be expected to assimilate into other cultures if we choose to live amongst them? Well vise versa?

[Theland]

Is it not a form of abuse to help destroy the society we want our children to enjoy?
Every lurch to the liberal left and so called tolerant society has had negative effects that our children will inherit. Christianity helped to shore up our society, and when kids went to Sunday school in large numbers, it didn't seem to do them any harm apart from a bit of boredom maybe. But then how many went on to get married in church, and have their kids christened, and their dear departed loved ones given a religious send off?

[WaldoMcFroog]

"Not white culture Waldo, British culture."

Not British culture, Theland, 'white British culture', as stated in your question. You're the one who included race, not me.

[Octavius]

Are you asking us whether the downfall of British white culture is because of the influx of other cultures and religions leading to a dilution of systemic Christian beliefs in the UK?

Surely that would be a paradox, since if these people were downgrading our culture with their religious over-burden then general society would revolt? The downslide of Christianity in the UK has little to do with other cultures and antisocial behaviour, merely the cyclical nature of humankind in rejection of old beliefs and the reversion into newer (or older) beliefs or just a general lack of any beliefs at all. The revolt tends to be more social based, jobs, housing, benefits etc (or anything the Daily Mail says it is).

I don�t think Muslims, Sikhs or any other religious base would try to change our culture � although this is possible if many non-believers start believing and Christians convert � but would prefer their culture to exist within our culture to the point of tolerance and mutual acceptance.

Multi-cultural belief systems are not the cause of social problems in the UK, people and policies are. Or am I wrong and should I convert?

[tompaine]

I'm in agreement with Waldo. Of primary importance to christianity is the concept of the role model. One of Jesus' main strengths is that he showed mankind how to live by example. For this reason, if christianity has anything to say about british social policy it should argue for inclusion. If ethnic minorities are underrepresented in british institutions it is not because of lack of merit but lack of role models. If you want a well balanced society you need to include not exclude. For some peculiar reason you wish to claim white sovereignty over a religion which originated in the middle east and for a country almost entirely populated by foreign settlers (the anglo saxons). This country no more belongs to you than it does to me. Shouldn't the Celts tell us all to 'go back home'? Not content with ethnically cleansing Christianity - WASPing it if you like - you also somehow connect equal opportunities with the nefarious motivations of 'outsiders'. Have you not considered that it may be a good thing to balance opportunity and give more people a stake in society? Or do you not think the police can handle a bit of diversity?

[naomi24]

I disagree with Octavius (what's new?!). There are many Muslims who would change our culture if they could.