Stronghold

[jules77]

anybody got an opinion on Stronghold. As it contains selamectin, part of the 'mectin' family, I would not let my vet use it on my dogs as it can be fatal to collies. But the technicians at stronghold assure me it is ok, and used on all dogs in USA to treat heartworm, irrespective of the breed. (I am still not going to chance it though)

[lankeela]

As it also treats roundworms you should not worm your dog
at the same time as using it. Also not only collies, but greyhounds and belgian shepherds can have a reaction to products containing any of the ivermectin products. Just found this which is a bit scary:

http://www.pet-chat.co.uk/4959.HTM

[lankeela]

Another product being promoted by vets (the reps promise them a good deal) is Milbemax which is a dual wormer (round and tape) which should not be used on collies. Below is what is written on the leaflet:

"Special Precautions and Warnings

Studies with milbemycin oxime indicate that the margin of safety in certain dogs of Collie or related breeds is less than in other breeds. In these dogs, the recommended dose should be strictly observed.

The tolerance of MILBEMAX in young puppies from these breeds has not been investigated.

During treatment with MILBEMAX, no other macrocyclic lactones should be administered."

Whilst you can take a chance and carefully weigh them and administer the recommended dose, I am afraid I would not take the chance.

[lankeela]

And as if that wasn't enough, for those of you who have trouble sleeping here's some bedtime reading that is guaranteed to send you to sleep! (Although you might have nightmares!).

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:xWpUo6nZ9y cJ:www.awca.net/ivermectin.pdf+macrocyclic+lac tones+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

[jules77]

well as I thought, thanks for that Lankeela.

[leelapops]

My gosh jules, thanks for that I had no idea. Hmm, how often do the vets tell you that?!

[jules77]

my vet is well aware you should not use ivermectin on collies, but I know a lot arnt - as it can be fatal for collies, I wonder how many use it on collie crosses though? Fortunately I know not to use anything with mectin in it - but the technicians at stronghold were trying to reassure me that selamectin which is in stronghold - was ok to use, but i am not going to risk it, as I know someone who's dog had a bad reaction, his skin thickened and was like glue. I think my puppy has rabbit mite, but i am treating it with seleen shampoo at the moment.