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Prince William & Harry live it up
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles /news/news.html?in_article_id=476126&in_page_i d=1770
Prince William and his girlfriend enjoying a romantic holiday in the Seychelles.
Prince Harry and his girlfriend have just spent three weeks in Botswana at the exclusive Meno a Kwena resort, plus organising pop concerts etc. it must be all go for these two.
Excuse me but aren't these two high flyers supposed to be in the British Army?
It must leave every person who has a family member serving in the hell holes of Iraq & Afghanistan absolutly fuming. I know it does me because I have two gransons currently serving out in Afghanistan who have also served in Iraq and Bosnia. No time for holidays for them because of the quick turn around of these operations. Plus the fact that most of their time out there they are on duty 24/7. All due to the lack of troops.
They will shortly be returning to Britain for a rest & recuperation break of a few days, but what with the travelling time taken off these days, they will not have many left to rest and relax before they are once again back in action.
It is these real soldiers that should be relaxing, with their Wives, Girlfriends and Children, in some exotic resort, all paid for by the M.O.D.
Prince William and his girlfriend enjoying a romantic holiday in the Seychelles.
Prince Harry and his girlfriend have just spent three weeks in Botswana at the exclusive Meno a Kwena resort, plus organising pop concerts etc. it must be all go for these two.
Excuse me but aren't these two high flyers supposed to be in the British Army?
It must leave every person who has a family member serving in the hell holes of Iraq & Afghanistan absolutly fuming. I know it does me because I have two gransons currently serving out in Afghanistan who have also served in Iraq and Bosnia. No time for holidays for them because of the quick turn around of these operations. Plus the fact that most of their time out there they are on duty 24/7. All due to the lack of troops.
They will shortly be returning to Britain for a rest & recuperation break of a few days, but what with the travelling time taken off these days, they will not have many left to rest and relax before they are once again back in action.
It is these real soldiers that should be relaxing, with their Wives, Girlfriends and Children, in some exotic resort, all paid for by the M.O.D.
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Guys, guys, guys, there's a middle-ground here isn't there?
Our Boys (TM) on the whole face terrifying situations in some of the most unwelcoming places on earth. And they do it with bravery and dignity.
But let's not kid ourselves that they'd rather be working in a bank. Or that they're putting Queen & Country before their own preferred career and life style choices. They're in the forces because it's a job they want to do. They like it.
And thank god for them. I wouldn't fancy it.
Our Boys (TM) on the whole face terrifying situations in some of the most unwelcoming places on earth. And they do it with bravery and dignity.
But let's not kid ourselves that they'd rather be working in a bank. Or that they're putting Queen & Country before their own preferred career and life style choices. They're in the forces because it's a job they want to do. They like it.
And thank god for them. I wouldn't fancy it.
aog - Difficult to answer your questions because you seem to be incapable of debate without being personal, rude , assumptive and aggressive. You say jno is aggressive, but quite honestly I just can't see it. I am proud that you said I seem to be from the same mold as jno.
Perks: I have lived for long enough and had enough dealings with the forces to see there are a load of perks for forces personnel and their families. They are so cushioned that they find it very hard to adapt to civilian life after years of subsided living. I don't recall getting very angry about these perks however?
There are some that join the forces for vocational reasons, but unfortunately there are a load more that join because they can't get other employment or for other reasons that I wont go into here. For whatever reason they join, they should realise that they might have to partake in action and, what is more, action they perhaps don't agree with. I could personally never fight for something I didn't agree with.
Perks: I have lived for long enough and had enough dealings with the forces to see there are a load of perks for forces personnel and their families. They are so cushioned that they find it very hard to adapt to civilian life after years of subsided living. I don't recall getting very angry about these perks however?
There are some that join the forces for vocational reasons, but unfortunately there are a load more that join because they can't get other employment or for other reasons that I wont go into here. For whatever reason they join, they should realise that they might have to partake in action and, what is more, action they perhaps don't agree with. I could personally never fight for something I didn't agree with.
Tut tut AOG ..typical response from you to call people "uneducated idiots " when you can't have your own way and people don't bow and scrape to your opinions.
Is your bow tie too tight..?.
If people choose to join the army or choose to follow a vocation then they have to take the rough with the smooth . Very sad when people lose their loved ones in these situations but they knew the odds when they joined up.
The princes are merely figureheads and to have them pootling around in a theatre of war is ridiculous. They would be sitting targets which would just cause even more bloodshed .
The people you should direct your anger and frustration at are those who dragged us into this sorry state of affairs in the first place.....not Jno and the others who disagree with you.
Is your bow tie too tight..?.
If people choose to join the army or choose to follow a vocation then they have to take the rough with the smooth . Very sad when people lose their loved ones in these situations but they knew the odds when they joined up.
The princes are merely figureheads and to have them pootling around in a theatre of war is ridiculous. They would be sitting targets which would just cause even more bloodshed .
The people you should direct your anger and frustration at are those who dragged us into this sorry state of affairs in the first place.....not Jno and the others who disagree with you.
What are you on about aog? The Naffi? Why have you assumed that just because I may know about the forces I have worked with them? I have been spared that fortunately.
I am sure their are plenty of forces personnel or their families that will agree there are plenty of perks. Perhaps some of the ex Service Personnel might have quite nice pensions at a young age.........................
I am sure their are plenty of forces personnel or their families that will agree there are plenty of perks. Perhaps some of the ex Service Personnel might have quite nice pensions at a young age.........................
I cannot see anywhere where Jno has been unfriendly . To the point but hardly unfriendly .
What do you suggest they do ?.Address you as dear Sir and end their post ..Yours Faithfully ..kissy kissy .
I can however see someone who is unfriendly when others disagree ,namely yourself ,.and I quote ..
"miserable selfish ...you are a complete idiot,..idiotic and childish.....coward. ....you and your kind make me sick,.....uneducated idiot."
But your tone isn't unfriendly at all is it ?No.... It's just downright rude .
What do you suggest they do ?.Address you as dear Sir and end their post ..Yours Faithfully ..kissy kissy .
I can however see someone who is unfriendly when others disagree ,namely yourself ,.and I quote ..
"miserable selfish ...you are a complete idiot,..idiotic and childish.....coward. ....you and your kind make me sick,.....uneducated idiot."
But your tone isn't unfriendly at all is it ?No.... It's just downright rude .
Ah, I see..........
Anyone diverging from your unreasonable stance is automatically some sort of whinger; having the temerity to argue with you is met with claims of aggression and yet, having held your own grandsons up to us as shining examples of patriotic duty you have no qualms in taking the pi$$ out of my son who is only doing the same.
Coo.....let's hope your manly grandsons never need such a wuss as my son to pull their nuts out of the fire, eh ?
Despite your claims of erudition and belittling remarks regarding the intellectual deficiencies in the postings of others, the implication that M.O.D. is paying for W & H is plain in your final paragraph...............it is your short-comings as a poster that allowed that particular inference.
Anyone diverging from your unreasonable stance is automatically some sort of whinger; having the temerity to argue with you is met with claims of aggression and yet, having held your own grandsons up to us as shining examples of patriotic duty you have no qualms in taking the pi$$ out of my son who is only doing the same.
Coo.....let's hope your manly grandsons never need such a wuss as my son to pull their nuts out of the fire, eh ?
Despite your claims of erudition and belittling remarks regarding the intellectual deficiencies in the postings of others, the implication that M.O.D. is paying for W & H is plain in your final paragraph...............it is your short-comings as a poster that allowed that particular inference.
Since none of the jno fan club can see anything wrong with his attitude, (which in the first place brought me to be respond in somewhat the same manner as he responded to my perfectly reasonable question).
I suggess they read my question again. The only persons I was criticising was the two Princes, for the fact that they were not pulling their weight in the Army. jno could have posted an answer in disagreement without the need to make it a personal attack on me.
And I quote -:
sorry your grandchildren aren't getting enough leave, oldgit; but perhaps they should get another job? stop fretting about other people having fun.
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So anyway, what's your beef? That William and Harry lie in the sun or that your grandchildren don't?
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want to tell us about your wartime experiences, oldgit?
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saying you don't want to be taken literally, are you now oldgit? I guess that's a first step towards admitting you're talking nonsense?
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I think the aggressiveness of people like flipflop and oldgit is definitely male;
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I suggess they read my question again. The only persons I was criticising was the two Princes, for the fact that they were not pulling their weight in the Army. jno could have posted an answer in disagreement without the need to make it a personal attack on me.
And I quote -:
sorry your grandchildren aren't getting enough leave, oldgit; but perhaps they should get another job? stop fretting about other people having fun.
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So anyway, what's your beef? That William and Harry lie in the sun or that your grandchildren don't?
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want to tell us about your wartime experiences, oldgit?
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saying you don't want to be taken literally, are you now oldgit? I guess that's a first step towards admitting you're talking nonsense?
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I think the aggressiveness of people like flipflop and oldgit is definitely male;
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Cont :
I wish it to be known that I am only rude to people who are rude to me, because I do not turn the other cheek. So all I ask for is genuine debate without the need to be rude, personal, or agressive.
Such as these selection of other postings by the Fan Club.
I am sick of hearing whinging from forces families about their loved ones
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Is your bow tie too tight..?.
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What do you suggest they do ?.Address you as dear Sir and end their post ..Yours Faithfully ..kissy kissy .
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I wish it to be known that I am only rude to people who are rude to me, because I do not turn the other cheek. So all I ask for is genuine debate without the need to be rude, personal, or agressive.
Such as these selection of other postings by the Fan Club.
I am sick of hearing whinging from forces families about their loved ones
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Is your bow tie too tight..?.
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What do you suggest they do ?.Address you as dear Sir and end their post ..Yours Faithfully ..kissy kissy .
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Ah well oldgit, I have always found on this site that it is the liberal, Guardian reading people - you know the ones, the people that don't think we should have armed forces, or don't think we should punish people for crimes, and who feel the likes of Chindamo deserve second chances (I'm just using him as an example) etc..., who are always the quickest with the insults.
amazing that!
amazing that!
It's a bit of a leap to assume that people who aren't as enthused about the Armed Forces think that we don't need an army. I think just about everyone realises that it's necessary for the country's protection, but - as someone illustrated earlier - the chaps in Iraq aren't fighting to make us safer, and I don't see how the presence there is making us any safer (bear in mind I do not support withdrawal from Iraq, but I don't think we should have gone in).
As for the William and Harry thing...
Well, if I'm honest, I couldn't give a rat's arse about regal affairs, so this doesn't stir anything in me. I haven't actually read the article, but I'm going to assume that they're on leave of some sort, in which case all this partying will be paid for out of their own private wealth (which I suppose you can argue comes from the gov't.), in which case I don't see the problem. But as I say, I haven't bothered to read the article, so I'll refrain from comment.
As for the William and Harry thing...
Well, if I'm honest, I couldn't give a rat's arse about regal affairs, so this doesn't stir anything in me. I haven't actually read the article, but I'm going to assume that they're on leave of some sort, in which case all this partying will be paid for out of their own private wealth (which I suppose you can argue comes from the gov't.), in which case I don't see the problem. But as I say, I haven't bothered to read the article, so I'll refrain from comment.
"I am sick of hearing whinging from forces families about their loved ones"
The above is not rude, aggressive or personal - It is how I feel. Those that join the forces must expect it to be a dangerous and demanding job, and likewise their families. They are not conscripts - they are doing it out of their own free will. This does not mean that I don't respect the good work that they often do or that I don't have compassion for their families when they lose their loved ones.
The above is not rude, aggressive or personal - It is how I feel. Those that join the forces must expect it to be a dangerous and demanding job, and likewise their families. They are not conscripts - they are doing it out of their own free will. This does not mean that I don't respect the good work that they often do or that I don't have compassion for their families when they lose their loved ones.
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